Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Cargo (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/)
-   -   ABX washing out new hires.. (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/116413-abx-washing-out-new-hires.html)

nitefr8dog 08-31-2018 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by tiredofjrm (Post 2666015)
You guys got it all wrong! Soaper is doing what he got hired to do. Drag out negotiations. Once/if we get a TA, you can bet your ass there wont be retro pay. So for every day he drags this out, ATSG saves a pretty penny. I'm hearing rumors of 5-10% of base pay. F...Dat!!
Soaper is not capable of negotiating a new contract or run ABX....that is why he was hired. Out of work and cheap/available. The byproduct of those qualities has been dragging

I want to see full retro + 2%. That is the only way to stop this BS.

I understand that it rewards the *****s. I don't care! I have never picked up an opentime trip. Nor will I ever. This is about making sure the next contract gets signed when its due.

I agree Soaper is doing exactly what they hired him for....he is not capable of negotiating a contract or run an airline. By default those qualities result in the contact being dragged out and business going away. He was out of work (fired) and available cheap. Perfect empty suit.

Industry Strnd 09-05-2018 10:13 AM

Do you think it's possible the president ran the Manger of training off so he could put someone in place that will have pilots fail check rides making it harder for them to get out of ABX?

If I was on the outside looking in I consider going elsewhere!

motorclutch 09-05-2018 02:19 PM

Soapy has no control of our pilot training. He wouldn’t know how to bust anyone.

Almost There 09-06-2018 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2666028)
I agree Soaper is doing exactly what they hired him for....he is not capable of negotiating a contract or run an airline. By default those qualities result in the contact being dragged out and business going away. He was out of work (fired) and available cheap. Perfect empty suit.

If someone cannot recognize this, they haven't been in aviation long enough.

ABX got the "disappearing airplane blues".

Kifaru 09-08-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Venkman (Post 2664550)
Flying well, and not crashing, are two very different things.

Proven daily.

Industry Strnd 09-15-2018 08:39 AM

Did another get busted out?

HawkeyeVan 09-23-2018 07:55 PM

Soaper sounds like another Frank Lorenzo, a guy who treated pilots like slaves.

4runner 09-24-2018 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by HawkeyeVan (Post 2679799)
Soaper sounds like another Frank Lorenzo, a guy who treated pilots like slaves.

He’s worse. Lorenzo was a management hitman operating airlines like a hedge fund manager. Soapy is one of us and attacking his own. Soapy is a pilot acting like a wannabe Lorenzo.

nitefr8dog 09-24-2018 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2679838)
He’s worse. Lorenzo was a management hitman operating airlines like a hedge fund manager. Soapy is one of us and attacking his own. Soapy is a pilot acting like a wannabe Lorenzo.

"One of us"...he is a former turbo prop commuter pilot/scheduler and house painter....he is NOT one of us!

point432 09-24-2018 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2679846)
"One of us"...he is a former turbo prop commuter pilot/scheduler and house painter....he is NOT one of us!



What?! Commuter pilot? I thought he just had his private with instrument. 🤨


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:35 AM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands