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cargowarrior 10-01-2018 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by JustOvIt (Post 2683071)
Abx is crying to the union
They need help building the November Bid Pack ! No one is left to put the schedules together. What a joke , I guess I can add Abx Air to the incompetence list, but we all knew this anyway !

Ha! Perhaps they can hire all the ones who left back. Surely they realize that a livable wage goes a long way to keeping people around. Just a thought!

b707guy 10-01-2018 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2683688)
"Are" old ABX chief pilot is an instructor at UPS. The one prior to him is an instructor at FDX...who else you have in mind?^


Mr. Shuttle is (or purports himself to be) a somewhat less-than-gruntled ATI pilot.


So, ""are" old CP" is in reference to ATI's previous CP who has vacated the position and returned to the line. That he's (apparently) picking up flying that never appeared in open time is as interesting as it is out of character.



That "everyone" here is skywhoring is patently false.

forrealyall 10-02-2018 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by cargowarrior (Post 2683805)
Ha! Perhaps they can hire all the ones who left back. Surely they realize that a livable wage goes a long way to keeping people around. Just a thought!

LOL...for some of us it wasn't a lack of "living wage" it was a lack of "living with you" wage.

But yes, the refusal to directly compete with Atlas for retention/applicants didn't help anything.

JustOvIt 10-02-2018 05:44 AM

OMNI
 
ATSG just bought Omni !!

Hang10 10-02-2018 05:55 AM

Omni guys just got screwed! Welcome to the worse management in Aviation!!!

HeavyDriver 10-02-2018 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Hang10 (Post 2684424)
Omni guys just got screwed! Welcome to the worse management in Aviation!!!

Probably load the debt free airline up with debt, and sell off the assets over time. Good business the bankers say.

freighthound 10-04-2018 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by Shabby (Post 2683668)
Doesn’t it suck that some people keep on picking up trips from open time?

Some? I would say most. Making yourself available for junior manning is the same as bidding open time, just has a higher pay rate.

tiredofjrm 10-04-2018 10:03 AM

We are all skyhoes. It’s just a matter of how much. Some will do it for opentime. Some for a promise of more airplanes and possible upgrade. Some for JRM and D6 days.
It is a very small percentage that don’t fit into any of these categories. Usually, it those who are already in the left seat with a nice $$$ cushion in the bank.

Reactivity 10-04-2018 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by tiredofjrm (Post 2685913)
We are all skyhoes.

Speak for yourself.

tiredofjrm 10-04-2018 04:11 PM

Reactivity won’t do a MIA turn for $10,000? I call BS!


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