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Old 04-15-2007 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JB130
2037 11
And I'm one of those... Another 30 years with out the Age 60 change.
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Old 04-15-2007 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FrontSeat
It would be great if somone had this for UPS...anyone?

are you in the IPA yet? There is a fantastic seniority program available to us which shows all sorts of charts and does all sorts of computations, including your number at retirement

http://tools.ipapilot.org/juniority/index.php

anyway, until I can figure out how to do the chart, here is the data

Near Term Retirements
Year # Retirements Chart
2007 89

2008 61

2009 60

2010 45

2011 52

2012 62

2013 65

2014 79

2015 98

2016 96

2017 97

2018 89

2019 136

2020 138

2021 172
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Old 04-15-2007 | 05:39 PM
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not in IPA yet ,,,,just a poolie

Thanks a million
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Old 04-15-2007 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FrontSeat
not in IPA yet ,,,,just a poolie

Thanks a million
I can't figure out how to embed a graphic in a message. If I click on the graphic icon, it allows me to put in a URL, but the charts I have are on my hard drive. Anyone know how to do this? If I do the paper clip, it allows me to upload a file, but will that show in my post as the graphic?
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Old 04-15-2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JB130
That chart is a bit small. Here's the raw data....

2007 126
2008 151
2009 131
2010 162
2011 153
2012 189
2013 185
2014 156
2015 183
2016 211
2017 213
2018 222
2019 231
2020 220
2021 242
2022 208
2023 195
2024 175
2025 142
2026 163
2027 156
2028 167
2029 162
2030 118
2031 84
2032 55
2033 62
2034 47
2035 27
2036 18
2037 11
2038 6
2039 1
2040 1

Take a nice long look at the number of guys who won't be hired in the next 30+ years if the age 60 rule changes.

Thanks guys.
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Old 04-15-2007 | 06:00 PM
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they'll be hired, just five years later
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Old 04-15-2007 | 06:01 PM
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So that makes it right I guess.

At least you are willing to admit that a potential rule change would have a negative impact on hiring and those who are furloughed.

More than most of the pro change crowd can muster.
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Old 04-15-2007 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SNAFU
So that makes it right I guess.

If you don't mind me saying, the tone of your message indicates that you seem to carry a rather large chip on your shoulder about this. Of course it has a negative implication on those waiting to get hired or recalled. Is that supposed to negate those that it helps at the other end? You forgot to mention the negative impact on those waiting to upgrade as well. Come to think of it, it impacts those like me that already have an upgrade but would like to have a better number each month come bidding time. Guess it hurts me too!

Don't be so quick to throw me in either camp. I really don't care if it changes or not. I recognize all arguments on the subject and don't really think any are more persuasive on either side. I recognize that standing in the middle of the road is the best place to get run over, but this thing is going to happen or not without any real input from you or I.
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Old 04-15-2007 | 06:40 PM
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Yes I do. You are probably right in that this change will occur (or not) regardless of the wishes of the pilots.

It would be nice if those rooting for the change would at least acknowledge the negative impact the change would have on those waiting for recalls and those waiting for the same chance for and upgrade that everyone for the last 49 years had.
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Old 04-15-2007 | 07:03 PM
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There's the whole issue of changing the rule - the merits on either side.

Then there is, to me, the larger issue: we are told we must do something because the EU has already decided on it. Now what kind of bullsh!t is that? What are they going to decide for us next?
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