ALPA age 60 survey security flaw
04-16-2007, 04:52 PM
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ALPA age 60 survey security flaw
From the ALPA message line..
ALPA is providing an even more secure Internet environment for its web survey on the mandatory pilot retirement age. Eligible members are now required to submit both their ALPA member number and their employee number before gaining access to the survey. Use your ALPA member number to log in and your 6-digit employee number as your password. The enhanced security feature will apply only to future survey participants beginning today, Monday, April 16. All poll results of those members who have already taken the ALPA survey but were not required to submit both identity numbers will remain valid. ALPA will use the results of a telephone poll employing the web poll demographics to ensure that the web survey results are accurate.
Anyone else think this is ALPA's way of saying, "Hey there's a security issue that we found after the poll began, it's been compromised, but we're going to get the results we want anyway." My question is why don't we void the poll and start over. What good is a survey that may have been compromised? What do you guys think?
ALPA is providing an even more secure Internet environment for its web survey on the mandatory pilot retirement age. Eligible members are now required to submit both their ALPA member number and their employee number before gaining access to the survey. Use your ALPA member number to log in and your 6-digit employee number as your password. The enhanced security feature will apply only to future survey participants beginning today, Monday, April 16. All poll results of those members who have already taken the ALPA survey but were not required to submit both identity numbers will remain valid. ALPA will use the results of a telephone poll employing the web poll demographics to ensure that the web survey results are accurate.
Anyone else think this is ALPA's way of saying, "Hey there's a security issue that we found after the poll began, it's been compromised, but we're going to get the results we want anyway." My question is why don't we void the poll and start over. What good is a survey that may have been compromised? What do you guys think?
04-16-2007, 05:02 PM
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Although not much of a consperacy theorist, I actually agree with your suggestion. Better yet, why don't they just stick with the previous poll they did under two years ago and do what we already told them we wanted them to do.
04-16-2007, 09:00 PM
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Everybody who votes recieves a "Survey Notification" e-mail that the vote has been registered. If anyone has had their ALPA number used improperly to register a vote "on their behalf," there is plenty of time to go in and change the vote to reflect the member's actual preferences. For this reason, I see no need to start over.
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ALPA has been notified that the following survey has been cast by ALPA Number 1234567: Survey Title: ALPA Age 60 Survey 2007 Confirmation Number: 987654321 Participated on: 4/13/2007 09:52:56 Pacific Time If you did not participate in this survey, please contact either Robert Novak Tel: 703 689 4212 E-Mail [email protected] Sandra Titcomb Tel: 703 689 4173 E-Mail [email protected]
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04-17-2007, 02:05 AM
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Good point Tony, but I know quite a few guys that have never logged on to the ALPA website, and have never given them a valid email address. This is such a sensitive issue, for so many people, that the integrity of the survey should be beyond question. Granted, I believe the poll is slanted, and that the age will be raised no matter what we say. However, we the members are ALPA, and if the majority of the members are still against it, as in the last survey, then we should lobby against it.
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