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Old 11-21-2018, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post

I am a 3rd year FO and I have never earned more than $69k here.
That is truly BS
How they continue to jerk you guys around is really unbelievable in this market

I know you know this but it bares repeating....at K4 we have many 2yr fo's making 100k more than that...
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:47 AM
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Let me add to the list, a friend of mine at Atlas was hired by Delta a few months after upgrading on the 767.
As for your pay at Atlas, I find it absolutely disgusting what your management is doing.
Connie has benefited directly by paying pilots more, everyone is making more money including him. Flights do not get cancelled, people come in on days off to help, ability to staff more airplanes to serve more customers. It's been a win-win for everyone.
I look at ABX and Atlas management in disbelief. Guess the stock price is the only metric they care about! Privately owned has its benefits.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:18 AM
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I know you know this but it bares repeating....at K4 we have many 2yr fo's making 100k more than that...
Hell, most 1 year FOs are clearing That.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:38 AM
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Hell, most 1 year FOs are clearing That.
First year on a K4 76 making 169k?? That’s incredible
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
I look at ABX and Atlas management in disbelief. Guess the stock price is the only metric they care about! Privately owned has its benefits.
But the stock price just continues to drop - for both AAWW and ATSG. Both companies are down for the year. They clearly don't care about their shareholders either. At this point they're just deliberately destroying their own companies.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:52 AM
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I've heard a few new hires sitting R3 at the hub complaining about, "this isn't what they signed up for."

They have come to realize upgrade is 5 years away minimum, and with no growth on the 767, their life is now sealed for the foreseeable future.

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Old 11-21-2018, 09:01 AM
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Oh. R3 = 3am to 9am at the CVG hub. It's completely slammed with 100's of pilots. Nowhere to sleep, sit, or a corner to find.

Then they activate you @ 845am to operate to a garden spot like GSO or RIC. ��

It's quite humbling. You realize you're doing it for free on 62 hour min pay at 80 bucks an hour.

Come on over and see for yourself.
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Old 11-21-2018, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker View Post
First year on a K4 76 making 169k?? That’s incredible
How do you figure?
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I'm guessing the original quote was misread. I suspect the idea was there are a few second year 747 guys making ~169k, and most first year 747 guys are at or near 100k. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CardboardCutout View Post
I'm guessing the original quote was misread. I suspect the idea was there are a few second year 747 guys making ~169k, and most first year 747 guys are at or near 100k. Correct me if I'm wrong.
2nd year with some OT will gross around 160k, at least I am. First year with a decent amount more OT will as well. You can make as much as you want. It really is all about deciding what you want more, time at home or money? It is difficult to be paid just the min guarantee. If I really wanted to, I probably could of grossed 200k my second year if I was an OT *****. I like my time at home however.

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