Originally Posted by deus ex machina

Interesting... tell me more about your international network of legal and pilot representation wrt the criminalization of pilots in foreign states.....

Are you going to provide negotiating leverage for DAL (soon) and UAL who are currently in Section 6... or are you waiting for them to help you..

Originally Posted by SaltyDog

LOL!
You don't say anything or respond to inquiry asked, only act like ALPA superior in all things.
You apparently know but wont answer as other unions have expertise and capability to support represented pilots.
Already have the answers myself. I already know about the various unions strengths and challenges. You are blind to your own propaganda. Lousy diplomat for ALPA. (I know some good ones though in leadership positions)
No perfect pilot union. All have challenges. Most pilots understand this fact.

Originally Posted by deus ex machina

such as...

one another note, ALPA is a part of IFALPA... get criminalized in a foreign state and you are going to wish you had an network of representation that can get there in hours... not weeks... Ask your IBT leadership...

I can only imagine what your hotels are like...

Originally Posted by deus ex machina

It's not what you fly, it's who you fly for....

reading this thread, Atlas guys are in a netherworld... how can you explain something is better out there when Atlas guys don't even know what better is....

If they want to be convinced that ALPA sucks, go for it... but ALPA sucks less than everyone else, simply due to the resources... the IBT doesn't have near the funds, institutional knowledge and resources as ALPA... If you don't have the funds and ability to strike the company owns the negotiation process.. combine that with Trump NMB and the only thing that is going to compel management to negotiate is labor peace and stability... if they don't see that value then you guys are screwed....

As I said... WB FOs at my carrier make more than B747 CAs at Atlas.. and that is just the pay rate... the work rules, benefits and retirement will make you weep.

But hey, you're flying the Queen.

Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

Would ALPA have prevented K4 from voting for their industry worst retirement? Or is that more of a K4 pilot group thing...

Originally Posted by deus ex machina

Perhaps... the ALPA president signs the contract with consideration to other pilot groups... do you have that checks and balances at IBT...

Does the IBT, SWAPA and IPA consider other pilot groups and the effect their CBA will have on them?

Originally Posted by deus ex machina

Asking for details... not rhetoric... either you got it or you don't...

How do you represent your IBT pilots internationally when they are incarcerated by govt?

Originally Posted by SaltyDog

I asked for details too. As have others
Not rhetoric.
No response by you either

Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57

Hahaha I find it humourous you bring up this point. As Kalittas beef with IBT was DB was preventing them from voting on their current CBA because how it could affect other contracts being negotiated. So you are saying that ALPA is going todo the same thing. Thanks for the morning laugh friend.

Originally Posted by FR8Dog7

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