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Old 01-04-2019, 07:37 AM
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Yes, writing contract language. Jackstraw, PM sent.
17 days in a row away from home writing contract language. You can’t be serious.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:53 AM
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17 days in a row away from home writing contract language. You can’t be serious.
I am dead serious. Not just 17 days...almost two years of writing for 17 days. You don't seriously think these things write themselves do you? I have PM'd you inviting you to call me and I can explain every detail.

Nothing like underestimating things you don't understand but too scared to call and actually learn the facts. This reminds me of my neighbor that constantly tells me I have the easiest job in the world flying airplanes. Just press a button and the thing flies itself. The drone pilot neighbor can't figure out why airline pilots make any more than minimum wage because every kid who likes video games could just sit at home flying HKG-LAX from his computer.
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:04 AM
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I am dead serious. Not just 17 days...almost two years of writing for 17 days. You don't seriously think these things write themselves do you? I have PM'd you inviting you to call me and I can explain every detail.

Nothing like underestimating things you don't understand but too scared to call and actually learn the facts. This reminds me of my neighbor that constantly tells me I have the easiest job in the world flying airplanes. Just press a button and the thing flies itself. The drone pilot neighbor can't figure out why airline pilots make any more than minimum wage because every kid who likes video games could just sit at home flying HKG-LAX from his computer.
I’ll gladly call later. A lot of this doesn’t add up.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville View Post
Yes, writing contract language. Jackstraw, PM sent.
WHAT??

Do you mean to tell me that a 330+ page contract that needs a complete re-write doesn't accommodate current pilot group references, re-write, edit, proofread, and pass the lawyers recommendations all by itself??

... how lame ...
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:43 AM
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Nothing like underestimating things you don't understand but too scared to call and actually learn the facts.
Man I hear you, and I get it. But throwing out insults to the guys you represent is such a bad look. We all want you to do well, and be compensated appropriately. Jack straw brings up concerns that A LOT of us have as we review our already undersized pay stubs for the past year and see what we have spent on dues and assessments. I think it’s pretty normal to want to ensure that money is being spent in the most efficient way possible considering the snails pace of progress.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:52 AM
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WHAT??

Do you mean to tell me that a 330+ page contract that needs a complete re-write doesn't accommodate current pilot group references, re-write, edit, proofread, and pass the lawyers recommendations all by itself??

... how lame ...
It’s not that. It’s that we’ve been hearing for months that our side of the table is already complete in writing CBA language. We’re just waiting for the company. But not only apparently not, but apparently it takes 17 days a month EVERY month that doesn’t have a 4 day Sydney layover built in to get it written. But what do I know. I’m too tired from working to care anymore.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker View Post
Man I hear you, and I get it. But throwing out insults to the guys you represent is such a bad look. We all want you to do well, and be compensated appropriately. Jack straw brings up concerns that A LOT of us have as we review our already undersized pay stubs for the past year and see what we have spent on dues and assessments. I think it’s pretty normal to want to ensure that money is being spent in the most efficient way possible considering the snails pace of progress.
I respect that and I will respectfully answer any questions you have because you want answers. What you didn't do is falsely accuse your leadership of stealing, fraudulent activity, or mismanagement. You just asked questions and shared your valid concerns.

With that said, false accusations and outright baseless lies that have been spread and delivered by some will be returned with hard hitting facts.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:28 AM
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It’s not that. It’s that we’ve been hearing for months that our side of the table is already complete in writing CBA language. We’re just waiting for the company. But not only apparently not, but apparently it takes 17 days a month EVERY month that doesn’t have a 4 day Sydney layover built in to get it written. But what do I know. I’m too tired from working to care anymore.
We have not met for negotiations since June/July (Southern LOA). Once again, false accusations void of facts. Also, for the record, I don't like Sydney layovers.

What is the matter Jackstraw, too busy launching false accusations to pick up the phone and get real answers?
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:30 AM
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Al I have to say is that if JonnyKnoxville offers for you to call him and ask him questions please do so. He has always been willing to talk to me and answer any questions. If you do, hopefully that will clear up any concerns that you may have and we can stop all this *****ing on an open forum.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:31 AM
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We have not met for negotiations since June/July (Southern LOA). Once again, false accusations void of facts. Also, for the record, I don't like Sydney layovers.

What is the matter Jackstraw, too busy launching false accusations to pick up the phone and get real answers?
Who said I was referring to you? In fact, none of my posts have been referring to you. You actually fly the line. You don’t UB day then VX either, which is the lowest of lows. You’re doing a fine job in my eyes.
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