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flyboy730 02-22-2019 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 2765890)
In the future, ditch the wife. If she isn’t willing to stick by you and support you so you can support your family (her included), than she isn’t worth it. Sounds like you have really busted your rear trying to keep both going. I did that and nearly lost both. I was fortunate to have at least salvaged my career. Marriage went into the tank and now several years divorced, Im kicking myself for not having separated sooner.

Just my .02, best of luck

Agreed. This is not a career that supports a demanding spouse. If she’s not willing to move and your family requires a certain amount of income from you, then I’d say you’re stuck where you’re at. You may have to stand up to her and tell her to put her big girl britches on and deal with it.

atpcliff 02-23-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 2768474)
I don’t know if Amazon would do such a thing. I could see them purchase ATI or atlas or abx or even all of them on a bulk discount... someday. But not Fedex or UPS. Too expensive for what you get. Besides these are global freight carriers. Amazon doesn’t serve the planet and will not need that kind of structure to maintain.

Besides I wonder if the DOJ would let that slide

From what I have been reading, Amazon doesn't have an interest in FedEx, because they don't have a big enough ground shipping business to help Amazon. They need more ground help to expand their air shipping...

atpcliff 02-23-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by MentalMidget (Post 2768583)
Just one man's opinion, but until Amazon changes their business model nothing will change. It is a close duplicate of the DHL ACMI race to the bottom model and guess what.....it works. Does anyone see DHL changing their model after all these years?


hth

I believe that the DHL business model, will not work for Amazon, because of the Pilot Shortage. You can provide a cheap contract for pilots, and not have very many, or, if you want to grow your operation, you have to have a contract that will attract pilots from other flying organizations, to switch to your operation.

MentalMidget 02-23-2019 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2769066)
I believe that the DHL business model, will not work for Amazon, because of the Pilot Shortage. You can provide a cheap contract for pilots, and not have very many, or, if you want to grow your operation, you have to have a contract that will attract pilots from other flying organizations, to switch to your operation.




ATI does not have a pilot shortage and apparently neither do any of the other acmi carriers. I've been hearing about a pilot shortage for 30 years, let me know when it happens. As far as attracting pilots from other flying organizations, there seems to be an abundance of mesa and great lakes pilots getting hired at ATI and voting yes on a substandard contract because they are too ignorant to know any better.

No Land 3 02-23-2019 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by MentalMidget (Post 2769077)
ATI does not have a pilot shortage and apparently neither do any of the other acmi carriers. I've been hearing about a pilot shortage for 30 years, let me know when it happens. As far as attracting pilots from other flying organizations, there seems to be an abundance of mesa and great lakes pilots getting hired at ATI and voting yes on a substandard contract because they are too ignorant to know any better.

Hey, not all Mesa and Great Lakers are that way...

midnightshuttle 02-23-2019 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2769099)
Hey, not all Mesa and Great Lakers are that way...

ABSOLUTELY agree ^^^^^^^^^^^

conceited 02-24-2019 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2769066)
I believe that the DHL business model, will not work for Amazon, because of the Pilot Shortage. You can provide a cheap contract for pilots, and not have very many, or, if you want to grow your operation, you have to have a contract that will attract pilots from other flying organizations, to switch to your operation.

I agree 100%... With the projected "planned" retirement numbers over the next decade, companies will have no other choice but to fork over a decent contract in order to attract and retain pilot. Furthermore, if given the option "most" pilots will choose a career fly passengers as opposed to cargo. Hence, the reason why FedEx & UPS compensates their guys so well.

LunkerHunter 02-24-2019 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by MentalMidget (Post 2769077)
As far as attracting pilots from other flying organizations, there seems to be an abundance of mesa and great lakes pilots getting hired at ATI and voting yes on a substandard contract because they are too ignorant to know any better.

With a statement this ignorant you really are a mental midget

MentalMidget 02-24-2019 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by LunkerHunter (Post 2769610)
With a statement this ignorant you really are a mental midget


This is precisely the thinking, (correction lack of thinking) that ATI's contract passed with a majority 70% +.



Just bear in mind when you interview at another major and the reps from labor ask you these types of scenarios and where you stand, give them your answer and don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out lads.

No Land 3 02-24-2019 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by MentalMidget (Post 2769679)
This is precisely the thinking, (correction lack of thinking) that ATI's contract passed with a majority 70% +.



Just bear in mind when you interview at another major and the reps from labor ask you these types of scenarios and where you stand, give them your answer and don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out lads.

No one cares about regional politics once they leave the regionals, I highly doubt anyone cares about ACMI politics at Brown/Purple/AA/DL/UA.


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