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ACMItrash 04-09-2019 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by ACMItrash (Post 2773682)
Still no upgrades in well over a year!

Grievances at an all time high and no negotiations planned.
Any management telling potential new hires there will be a contract "soon" is a flat out lie. They have been telling new hires that for almost 3 years!

Wow 2 upgrades announced 2...100 more Fos to go with no airplanes scheduled for delivery!

point432 04-10-2019 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by ACMItrash (Post 2799893)
Wow 2 upgrades announced 2...100 more Fos to go with no airplanes scheduled for delivery!



I think they need to be upgrading more than just 2 a month from now until August. Captains cycle through the FIFO twice as hard as FOs. The Company is so behind the curve, we are hiring for attrition that happened months ago. Can’t wait to see the grand plan for ILN. We need to upgrade like 4-6 a month and run a class of 10 FOs from now until the end of the year.


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Reactivity 04-10-2019 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by point432 (Post 2800051)
I think they need to be upgrading more than just 2 a month from now until August. Captains cycle through the FIFO twice as hard as FOs. The Company is so behind the curve, we are hiring for attrition that happened months ago. Can’t wait to see the grand plan for ILN. We need to upgrade like 4-6 a month and run a class of 10 FOs from now until the end of the year.

I was expecting more. This is purely conjecture, but given 99 FOs on the May bid qual list vs. 111 captains, I'm guessing they don't want to drain the FO list any more than that until they start getting FOs on line. You get the lists too unbalanced and you run into a situation where you not only don't have any FOs to junior man, but you can't junior man check airmen to the right seat either because they're busy training new FOs. It's the old conundrum - fish or cut bait?

point432 04-12-2019 11:28 AM

https://apnews.com/d08389779b2e407d85b29a887961c5aa


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ACMItrash 05-18-2019 12:52 AM

Bold prediction. ABX lied to 5 more suspecting potential new hires telling them ABX will have a contract "soon"

flyfranz 05-18-2019 01:32 AM

The good news is that this could be a good diet for some. I came in to do a JFK turn. 04:45 showtime. Hotel restaurant is closed. Cafeteria is closed. No catering on the airplane, and you’re working till 12:20.

point432 05-18-2019 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by flyfranz (Post 2822182)
The good news is that this could be a good diet for some. I came in to do a JFK turn. 04:45 showtime. Hotel restaurant is closed. Cafeteria is closed. No catering on the airplane, and you’re working till 12:20.



And no NDO either, right? But wait, why didn’t you just use the vending machines?


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nitefr8dog 05-18-2019 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by flyfranz (Post 2822182)
The good news is that this could be a good diet for some. I came in to do a JFK turn. 04:45 showtime. Hotel restaurant is closed. Cafeteria is closed. No catering on the airplane, and you’re working till 12:20.

Since domestic catering was never negotiated in the current contract we are operating under....you are probably not going to suddenly start seeing it. Just like paying for our hotels in domicile....home based was not negotiated. We took pay instead. At the time and for the next 8 or so years ABX was the highest paid ACMI operator anywhere. It's all negotiable...we could eat surf and turf on every leg if we accept work rules and retirement/disability like the other ACMI's have. Be home based too! Tell your union what you MUST have and are willing to settle for.

flyfranz 05-19-2019 04:58 PM

I try to eat healthy. There ain’t much of that in the vending machine. I usually have protein bars in my bag. This never happens when u have bars in your bag
I’m ok without catering when there are options. At 4:45 am with the cafeteria closed, it sucked. .
I don’t need home basing. I’d prefer the added $17,000 in my 401K

ACMItrash 05-24-2019 05:28 PM

Could this be ABX new hire list for seeking new hires?
Come to ABX there is 50% chance you will have a better job in less than 3 years!
There is a 70% chance you might get a 767 type!
Why go to a regional for a $40,000 signing bonus when that's what you will make here your first year!
12 hours of ready reserve in CVG is what you need this summer!
Jr Manning is picking back up, your home life will suffer but you will get to see the world in the middle of the night working 20 days in a row!

You get to work for some of the highest paid management in the world who took deep concessions from the pilots and never gave it back!
You get to work for a guy who loves to threaten your career everyday!

What a swell place.


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