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Old 09-26-2019, 08:11 PM
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Well, it sounds like you have your mind all made up. What are you posting bout it here for then?

Best of luck at Southern to you.
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Old 09-27-2019, 11:32 AM
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hat are you posting bout it here for then?
Typically, before someone makes a stupid career decision for a bad reason, they cast about on the internet for someone to contradict the thousands of bad (and true) things they've heard. At this point it's practically a ritual.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:02 PM
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Can anyone message me a 777 FO schedule and a 737 CA schedule. Also is the 90K first year earnings they posted on the Atlas website for a 777 FO even close to accurate? Thanks.
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Can anyone message me a 777 FO schedule and a 737 CA schedule. Also is the 90K first year earnings they posted on the Atlas website for a 777 FO even close to accurate? Thanks.
First four months (training pay - both fleets):
$1,600 X 4 = $6,400

After training (both fleets):
$79.60 x 50 hour minimum monthly guarantee: $3,980 a month

$3,980 X 8 = $31,840

First Year Pay expect: $38,240
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville View Post
First four months (training pay - both fleets):
$1,600 X 4 = $6,400

After training (both fleets):
$79.60 x 50 hour minimum monthly guarantee: $3,980 a month

$3,980 X 8 = $31,840

First Year Pay expect: $38,240
The recruiter was saying the average FO flys 95 hours a month is there any truth behind that. If so it would be close to the 90K mark. She also said your paid for the time your resting during the flight as well so if it’s 12 hours and your the secondary crew you’d be paid the whole 12 hours.
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Old 01-08-2020, 05:42 PM
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My first full year at Atlas I earned $49,000 on the 747. My second full year was $91,000. The 777 will probably be similar. The Atlas and Southern contracts are the same except the 777 pays slightly less than the 747.
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Old 01-08-2020, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by anthony5965 View Post
The recruiter was saying the average FO flys 95 hours a month is there any truth behind that. If so it would be close to the 90K mark. She also said your paid for the time your resting during the flight as well so if it’s 12 hours and your the secondary crew you’d be paid the whole 12 hours.
You're talking to the same recruiters who told me that if I came to Atlas that I would upgrade in 2 years. That was 3.5 years ago, and I am at least 1.5 - 2 years away from an upgrade.

I'm on 4th year pay at Atlas, and I just barely broke 80K for the first time.

There are tons of people at Atlas / Southern (including captains) leaving for places like Jetblue / Frontier / Spirit. The ones who have left seem a lot happier at their new jobs. Have you considered applying at any of those carriers?
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Old 01-08-2020, 06:03 PM
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Can anyone message me a 777 FO schedule and a 737 CA schedule. Also is the 90K first year earnings they posted on the Atlas website for a 777 FO even close to accurate? Thanks.
You won't make anywhere close to $90k on 2nd year pay unless you want to be gone 25 days a month. If Atlas is telling you that you'll make that on first year pay they're lying through their teeth.
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Old 01-08-2020, 06:25 PM
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If someone out there is an actual 777 Southern pilot, can you please PM me. I have some questions about the QOL etc

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Old 01-08-2020, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by anthony5965 View Post
The recruiter was saying the average FO flys 95 hours a month is there any truth behind that. If so it would be close to the 90K mark. She also said your paid for the time your resting during the flight as well so if it’s 12 hours and your the secondary crew you’d be paid the whole 12 hours.
There was a time I believed in the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. Reality eventually sets in. Welcome aboard and once reality sets in you can begin looking for your next job all over again.

BTW, I bet the recruiters are still trying to dangle the quick upgrade carrot. The fact is that 47% of the pilots on the Southern Air seniority list were hired in the last 24 months. The first pilot hired in that wave had a quick upgrade but I would think it is safe to say the pilots hired today will have a vastly different experience.
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