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#51
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#52
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 10
Here I go again? Refer to post 30 where I warned about Junior Assignment on top of 17-20 days already scheduled.
“Nor will pilots being junior assigned well past their already 17-20 days.”
Yes, please come to Southern where you will make lots of money because you will rarely get to go home. On top of that you get to enjoy Gateway Basing and Imputed Income just like our Atlas Brothers and sisters. Is that better recruiting?
Jack, I was referring to the pilots eligible to vote for the LOA being aware of Gateway Basing. I know it’s hard to keep up but try a little harder. I’m very pro-Union but laughing at the attempt to decrease hiring through the use of an “unofficial” social media hit squad that spews less than truthful information about an airline they do not even work for. Atlas just reported record revenue, and earnings. Somehow the planes keep moving and pilots keep showing up for new hire class. Good on ya for trying though.
“Nor will pilots being junior assigned well past their already 17-20 days.”
Yes, please come to Southern where you will make lots of money because you will rarely get to go home. On top of that you get to enjoy Gateway Basing and Imputed Income just like our Atlas Brothers and sisters. Is that better recruiting?
Jack, I was referring to the pilots eligible to vote for the LOA being aware of Gateway Basing. I know it’s hard to keep up but try a little harder. I’m very pro-Union but laughing at the attempt to decrease hiring through the use of an “unofficial” social media hit squad that spews less than truthful information about an airline they do not even work for. Atlas just reported record revenue, and earnings. Somehow the planes keep moving and pilots keep showing up for new hire class. Good on ya for trying though.
#53
One question I have is, what is considered your gateway? Where you live and your home airport or are there gateway cities that you have to commute to on your own for them to buy you a ticket to start your rotation? Also, where do punitive taxes come into play? Thanks.
#54
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Position: 777 Left window seat
Posts: 640
#55
In the eyes of the IRS people live where they work. Therefore if you are somewhere else and need a ride to work it's a benefit. Same thing with hotels in base. In the eyes of the IRS why do you need a hotel where you live? So it's subject to being taxed.
#57
#58
Ok excellent! Thanks for taking the time to check. Appreciate it. I'm looking at trying to get on at an ACMI carrier. I have a friend at Southern that wants me to apply, but I'm not really sure I can take the pay cut. Also, I wish labor relations were better and a contract could be expected in the near future for you guys, but after reading and doing some research that doesn't seem very likely anytime soon.
#59
Back to the rig question...
Got it, you get 4.85 credit minimum per day because of the rig. But it is a trip rig, not a duty rig right? So you take 4.85 X 17 days =82.45 (I understand there will be half days so it's a little more complicated I'm just saying 17 days for simplicity.) Then you compare that with total flight time for the month? Say 75 hours? Trip rig wins and you get paid/credited 82.45 hours? Also, is the rig clock running while you are deadheading on day 0 or day 18? Or is it just the flat 25% deadhead pay tacked on to the rig time?
Thanks.
Got it, you get 4.85 credit minimum per day because of the rig. But it is a trip rig, not a duty rig right? So you take 4.85 X 17 days =82.45 (I understand there will be half days so it's a little more complicated I'm just saying 17 days for simplicity.) Then you compare that with total flight time for the month? Say 75 hours? Trip rig wins and you get paid/credited 82.45 hours? Also, is the rig clock running while you are deadheading on day 0 or day 18? Or is it just the flat 25% deadhead pay tacked on to the rig time?
Thanks.
NOTES:
1. You are paid the greater of pay credits (Block + DH = trng, etc), CRT, or Min Guarantee. Note that these calculations are made on a MONTHLY (not daily) basis! This is one of the weakest provisions of our "soft pay" issues at Atlas. If you fly a 16 hour trip one day, you're effectively paid for 4.85 hours for that trip.
2. Of course the first year is $1,600 / month in training and 50 hour guarantee after that.
3. Sick pays NOTHING until you are down to min guarantee (50 or 62) then it "pays" 3.65 hours per day.
4. Reserve "R - 1" (Home) pays NOTHING .
5. Reserve "R - 2" (Hotel) pays 1 hour for every 2 hours on duty
6. Training pays 3.65 hours per day.
6. Deadheads pay 1:2.85 - i.e., 2.85 hours of deadhead time equals one (1) hour of pay.
7. 737 FO's are paid at year one rates for the first three years (737 pilots are paid 75.91 of the "base 747" pay)
These are just a few of the highlights of our current contract...
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