scrupulous

Your one to speak. How noble you are to stay on here, but I think it is well known that is not the real reason you are still here instead of following your own advice to others.

• FA harassment complaints.
• Yet to deliver on any of your campaign promises. Transparency being one of them.
• Sabotaging the previous ExCo's efforts.
• Using Committee level access to the membership to get elected.
• Etc, Etc, Etc.

Uh, I have several that state otherwise. Many on the previous ExCo and one that was on the BK ExCo. I believe his history has caught up to him. Most likely why he is stuck here in the ACMI world. Being a proponent of moving problems up and out of here, that doesn't seem to have worked with him.

That would probably be a great statement if it wasn't for the fact that your sole income is being donated to you by our union and he is one of them running it. If that wasn't the case, your statement would have some gravity. Would go into detail, but that seems to get turned into the moderators immediately, thus the reason why I don't post it here anonymized.

You know, this reminds me of a call I had with one of our Polar originals this year who is on the 747. He complained about being on the CVG crew bus having to listen to yet another one of those new 76 guys under the BK youth indoctrination program telling him how the bear s---'s in the woods here at Atlas. You know 3-5 years of time here total and moved up to be captain on the 76 quickly without a clue of our history or any knowledge of our contract language vs his years as an FO to make captain after the last merger with all of it's turmoil. I mentioned that those guys are a product of the BK narrative program and he pretty much understood what that meant ending that part of the call to fix his problem at hand.

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I'm not the enemy. I would prefer to have never raised my head above the foxhole to correct a large number of things that only had an ounce of truth to them. I played along for awhile until guys were being put in jeopardy as leaders lead from behind exposing them as cannon fodder.

I whole heartedly suggest no one hires into this mess and suggest taking any FedEx/UPS/Delta/AA job during this hiring cycle. Having said this, I also suggest never taking things to heart from this ExCo without some research. I've found them selective in their honesty.

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One another note. I believe the Southern side has only spent about $9000 on FPL vs Atlas $1.76+million on flight pay loss for our members during this merger on our current issues.

Don't get me wrong, we support each other to make it better for all but we need to keep where the money goes in check thus the FPL amendment our current ExCo isn't following. LM-2_2018 of where our money went.

While our ExCo continues to fight, the language of the CBA is little different from the last merger and we know where that went from history. I'm a pilot and a business man that understands attempts at leverage. I also know it is easy to overplay a hand. I think we have reached the nasty divorce stage where everyone spends money to get a Pyrrhic victory.

Globemaster2827

I'm not sure what the previous EXCO would know about his resume and how it'd stack up at a Legacy/FedEx/UPS.... Are any of them actively pursuing jobs right now or maybe were recently hired? I'm sure they know a great deal about Engineers and flying steam gauges...

He's a 747 Captain in his 30s with a Degree. That's a competitive resume at a legacy right now. He's well liked by many of us who left and flies a great jet so a rec isn't a problem.

JackStraw

This discussion about someone’s hirability doesn’t seem appropriate for this public forum. Low blow, TH.

CaptDave

So, what’s the next phase then? From what I gather, it means negations coming but I have no experience or idea what terms are in the CBA(s). How is the seniority list going to be “merged”? Staples to the bottom or and actual merge with YoS accounted for? Basically, which kookaid flavor do I need to drink now?

I knew what I signed up for when I came here but just wanting some insight as to what current employees see happening next.

http://www.atlasairworldwide.com/201...r-arbitration/

akfrtdwg 57

Southerns Union said they authorized their attorney to file suit and try to vacate the arbitrators ruling as they believe the arbitrator exceeded his capacity by creating language not included in their CBA and what was out of his scope. So back to square one with a new law suit to delay negotiations from even starting. Unless the company capitulates, and decides to just sit down and negotiate a contract. But that would require them even wanting the company to survive. I don't think they even care about that honestly.

JonnyKnoxville

It is okay. I really appreciate everyone's support, especially yours Scrupulous. I have thick skin and nothing to hide. The more Suddenimpact/Scropulous and his Polar buddy begin to realize that they are the special kids in the 1% club within our pilot group, the more they will lash out in a nasty way. I expect nothing less from these guys. They have no integrity or honor nor do they have any valid solutions are desire to actually do any work.

Lies and half-truths are the weapon of choice for the 1% club. As far as me staying versus going, I have been fortunate enough to develop a diversified income at a young age where my aviation career is a small part of that income stream. I can afford to take the gamble in staying at Atlas Air and fighting while I am here to make it better.

I fight this fight because I wholeheartedly believe this pilot group is on the righteous path. I fight this fight for those in our pilot group not as fortunate as myself. As a pilot group, we will win this fight, despite the wishes of Scrupulous, his Polar buddy and the rest of the 1%ers.

Hey Scrupulous, why don't you climb out of the basement of your modestly priced split level in Texas and get your pilots to fly you somewhere nice on your Gulfstream 5 you are always bragging about? Certainly, that has to be a lot more fun than always proving to everyone on a public forum how special you are.

Globemaster2827

They've been negotiating... If Atlas wanted to accept the negotiating team's request for Industry Standard Language in the contract they could have a new contract in a month regardless of all these law suits. There will be more law suits if I had to guess. If they don't have negotiating dates management could call and schedule them... Heck, they could publish their entire version of a new contract if they really think it's so good right there on their shiny new website.

I bet that does happen one day. When it does I predict they'll conveniently leave out unimportant things like retirement, days of service, disability, monthly guarantee, pay for your annual recurrent training, line guarantee and a slew of other work rules that make no difference what so ever... There will just be a rate that still isn't quite Industry Standard and maybe one stray work rule.

Kerizbro

What do southern 77 and 73 pilots credit monthly on avg?

Atrasaty

Obviously I'm not a legal scholar and I get that the arbitrator gave his opinion that sided with the company. But where does he get jurisdiction to impose a 45 day limit for a SLI? There are other lawsuits and arbitrations that may not be concluded within that time frame. Smacks of a corrupt anti labor and over reaching decision.

Atrasaty

PS. The above has been my first post since the tragic accident near Houston. I lost a personal friend in that disaster and it broke my heart, hence my lack of engagement. I feel somewhat sick that this decision has our top executives high fiveing at the country club and feeling vindicated in their course of action. Rest in peace my brothers.