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Old 04-10-2019, 09:16 AM   #11  
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Somewhat in the same way that the goldfish, while floating inverted with one glazed eye drying under the fluorescent lamp isn't quite dead yet, but isn't long for the flush cycle on the well used American Standard in the loo.
But not officially tango uniform....
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But not officially tango uniform....
Tits up is tits up, whether dead or alive.

it's why I don't sleep on my back. That, and I keep swallowing my tongue.
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Tits up is tits up, whether dead or alive.

it's why I don't sleep on my back. That, and I keep swallowing my tongue.
Still not tango uniform.....that was the question. It's been a dumpster fire for years....yet they hang on. Could go on for years more. With their tits up or pointing straight at the floor.

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Old 07-20-2019, 07:55 PM   #14  
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Guess who’s getting a new “Lease” on life a Yuck Yuck. Getting additional 747s and I am guessing, DHL/Amazon flying.

You cannot kill a Cockaroach my lil friends!

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Guess who’s getting a new “Lease” on life a Yuck Yuck. Getting additional 747s and I am guessing, DHL/Amazon flying. Tony Montana
I would doubt either of those as the growth customer for SkyLease. Wrong size aircraft for Amazon, and I would think that either of those would require a higher level of reliability than SkyLease could reasonably be expected to provide.

Western Global flies the same types as SkyLease does, and has proven it can do it with reliability sufficient to service UPS on a track charter basis over a significant period. (I know SkyLease did some Peak work, but it's a different animal.) I would think that Western Global would be the next carrier for DHL, if it needed aircraft of that size, before SkyLease.

OTOH, I tend to look at this stuff rationally, so I could well be completely wrong...
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Where would these 747's be coming from, and why hasn't Atlas outbid them?
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Guess who’s getting a new “Lease” on life a Yuck Yuck. Getting additional 747s and I am guessing, DHL/Amazon flying.

You cannot kill a Cockaroach my lil friends!

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DHL doesn’t want anymore 747 aircraft
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DHL doesn’t want anymore 747 aircraft
It's interesting how the major integrators are moving away from the 747, while other shippers seem to want more of them.

Flexport just dumped Western Global as its operator because it wasn't happy with the dispatch reliability of the 747 that WGN was operating for it, and was particularly unhappy with an MD11 frequently being substituted for it. So it went to, of all places, Atlas for a factory 747F with the nose door. Just happened.

I say "of all places" because with the problems Atlas is having, I'm surprised that if Flexport wanted high reliability, they didn't go to Kalitta.

Regardless, I also noticed that National has customers for 3 additional 747s that it is starting to add.
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It's interesting how the major integrators are moving away from the 747
UPS is all-in on factory new Ochos, while FDX/DHL moves toward 777s.

Clearly network differences are driving that split...
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It's interesting how the major integrators are moving away from the 747, while other shippers seem to want more of them.

Flexport just dumped Western Global as its operator because it wasn't happy with the dispatch reliability of the 747 that WGN was operating for it, and was particularly unhappy with an MD11 frequently being substituted for it. So it went to, of all places, Atlas for a factory 747F with the nose door. Just happened.

I say "of all places" because with the problems Atlas is having, I'm surprised that if Flexport wanted high reliability, they didn't go to Kalitta.

Regardless, I also noticed that National has customers for 3 additional 747s that it is starting to add.
That makes for a lot of idle WGA birds.
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