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Old 04-29-2007, 01:57 PM
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Since we're throwing out techniques, and I know there are a ton of solid ones out there,... VFR (landing north), I plan for two approaches at destination then to be able to get to my alternate w/o declaring "minimum fuel."

What I don't understand is why they don't recognize the false economy. One guy bingo's and misses the sort, how much does that cost?
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:58 PM
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I think we should fly these fuel loads as planned. When you have to divert for gas, and miss the sort... at least you saved 5k on the original FPR.

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Somehow I don't think the Enders report recommended we shave down our fuel reserves....
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:32 PM
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I've been shutting down # 2 at cruise when the captain wasn't watching. He usually gets ****ed when the engine winds down but the fuel savings are so high we both end up looking like heros...

Well...okay...not really---but with this climate on fuel I have to ask "what next?"
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:13 PM
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I've been shutting down # 2 at cruise when the captain wasn't watching. He usually gets ****ed when the engine winds down but the fuel savings are so high we both end up looking like heros...

Well...okay...not really---but with this climate on fuel I have to ask "what next?"
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:43 PM
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Look for us switching to Flag Domestic vice Supplemental before too long. You heard it here first.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:29 PM
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I've been shutting down # 2 at cruise when the captain wasn't watching. He usually gets ****ed when the engine winds down but the fuel savings are so high we both end up looking like heros...

Well...okay...not really---but with this climate on fuel I have to ask "what next?"
You a P-3 wannabe?
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:40 PM
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You a P-3 wannabe?
ASA had a captain (Victor Foxtrot) who was former P-3. He had to almost be physically restrained by his F/O from shutting one down on a Brasilia in a holding pattern once....
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:01 PM
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you know, they normally start right back up again when ya need 'em...
But seriously, I don't think there are too many swept-wing transport aircraft that could possibly do better fuel-wise on fewer than all engines. The P-3 does. If we were haulin' freight with the Mighty Orion, we'd probably be loitering 1 AND 4!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we go Flag, the 30hr in 7 will apply, this may really reak havok with schedules.

Also, as far as TFM, had valve fail in flight from KIX to MEM. Didn't make any fuel.
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