Furloughs coming to Atlas
#121
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Or UPS
Or American, or Delta... United, Alaska, Southwest, Allegiant, Omni, Kalitta, ATI, Hawaiian, NAC, Spirit, JetBlue, Frontier, most Regionals...
All of them get pay more than Atlas and they get to vote on contracts. Maybe you haven't accepted the offer and you still have a chance.
#123
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
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I'm not saying 100% that does happen but don't be shocked if it does at some point. They're going to react to the situation in a manner that fixes the problem temporarily for them. That I'm sure of...
#124
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Cool but why not Fedex?
Or UPS
Or American, or Delta... United, Alaska, Southwest, Allegiant, Omni, Kalitta, ATI, Hawaiian, NAC, Spirit, JetBlue, Frontier, most Regionals...
All of them get pay more than Atlas and they get to vote on contracts. Maybe you haven't accepted the offer and you still have a chance.
Or UPS
Or American, or Delta... United, Alaska, Southwest, Allegiant, Omni, Kalitta, ATI, Hawaiian, NAC, Spirit, JetBlue, Frontier, most Regionals...
All of them get pay more than Atlas and they get to vote on contracts. Maybe you haven't accepted the offer and you still have a chance.
I'd go to OBAP if I were him. That'd get him a call.... Then add the type if you don't get a call... I'd definitely hold off on a class date until after OBAP if I were him though... Atlas is stupid to hire him. He won't be there in a year if he wants another job.
#125
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Posts: 1,349
For starters:
- stop with the “if you’re not with us you’re against us attitude” that seems to be so prevalent.
- stop trying to crucify and silence people that are critical of the union.
They’re critical for good reason.
- stop with the bombastic overly adversarial dramatic emails and just stick to fact in communications.
- stop with that ATAM nonsense
We all pay union dues and stop trying to make me feel it’s “protection money”.
- stop with the “if you’re not with us you’re against us attitude” that seems to be so prevalent.
- stop trying to crucify and silence people that are critical of the union.
They’re critical for good reason.
- stop with the bombastic overly adversarial dramatic emails and just stick to fact in communications.
- stop with that ATAM nonsense
We all pay union dues and stop trying to make me feel it’s “protection money”.
We're trying to align our membership and get us working toward some common goals. The problem is the vast majority of folks don't want to sit down and read a nuanced discussion about the quality of line-checks, history of negotiations, corporate culture, human factors behind a decades-old crash of a Hawker Trident, etc. People rally to clearly defined causes. So trying to rally people to a given cause can over-simplify issues and even alienate some folks. This doesn't mean the union thinks of you or anyone else as an adversary. Far from it. We need all the involvement and perspective we can get.
I agree that silencing criticism is bad. Criticism is welcome. If the criticism is off base, we look better having weathered it. If the criticism is accurate, we are stronger for the awareness and correction.
Does this mean the voices telling you to be quiet will stop? No. Just like we can't and shouldn't silence you, we can't and shouldn't silence individuals who speak for themselves, regardless of ideas. What we can say is that we, as a union, want to hear from you. You are not an entity apart from the union. Keep speaking up! When you do so, it's a lot easier for us to listen to and address specific issues. If you just say "You suck!", we can't really get a correction or any data from that.
Last edited by Elevation; 07-16-2019 at 01:59 AM. Reason: spelling, grammar, etc.
#126
#127
Your post above does nothing but make it look like you are pouting and that I hurt your feelings.
#128
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 698
Cool but why not Fedex?
Or UPS
Or American, or Delta... United, Alaska, Southwest, Allegiant, Omni, Kalitta, ATI, Hawaiian, NAC, Spirit, JetBlue, Frontier, most Regionals...
All of them get pay more than Atlas and they get to vote on contracts. Maybe you haven't accepted the offer and you still have a chance.
Or UPS
Or American, or Delta... United, Alaska, Southwest, Allegiant, Omni, Kalitta, ATI, Hawaiian, NAC, Spirit, JetBlue, Frontier, most Regionals...
All of them get pay more than Atlas and they get to vote on contracts. Maybe you haven't accepted the offer and you still have a chance.
Say hello to Rhonda for me- she knows how to make a great pork sasauge.
#130
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
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Posts: 6,469
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