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Helocargo 09-11-2022 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jetlagging (Post 3492882)
What's the word on the Amerijet TA? Is it set to pass anytime soon? K4 contract is not that good. They can be assigned to a 24 or 26 hour duty day and no cancellation pay and no daily rate no trip rigs no duty rigs either. Everything is in Connie's favor!

You didn’t sense the sarcasm? Believe me, this contract is an epic failure. Most senior pilots don’t want it. I’d be surprised it passes. Then again, the jingle jingle sound makes pilots at AJT quiver. Money kills work rules.

nitefr8dog 09-13-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 3490243)
The majority of airlines around the world hire people that aren't even pilots to begin with,!

Yes...then they do 6 mos of OE.

The Dominican 09-13-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3494377)
Yes...then they do 6 mos of OE.

It is actually a 4-year process in Japan :D

nitefr8dog 09-13-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 3494386)
It is actually a 4-year process in Japan :D

I was taking a stab at it....but you made my point. Doesn't seem very cost effective.

Birdsmash 09-13-2022 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3494459)
I was taking a stab at it....but you made my point. Doesn't seem very cost effective.

However, if they stay for the length of a pilot career it might be?

The Dominican 09-14-2022 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3494459)
I was taking a stab at it....but you made my point. Doesn't seem very cost effective.

These pilots stay with one company for their entire career. It is very cost effective!

nitefr8dog 09-14-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 3494568)
These pilots stay with one company for their entire career. It is very cost effective!

So again....since we are taking about Carriers in the US, where pilots move around, not very probable or cost effective. I think the discussion was about hiring low time 172 type and move them into the rt seat of a 767. You really produce a pilot with almost nothing to offer in experience when fighting wx, slippery runways, high terrain, language barriers, all the different countries procedures that take years to learn. The Captain is really just single pilot, as I said alot of work. We have seen an uptick of upgrade failures because of only being at the airline a couple of years and really only flying a few select routes.

Helocargo 09-14-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3494628)
So again....since we are taking about Carriers in the US, where pilots move around, not very probable or cost effective. I think the discussion was about hiring low time 172 type and move them into the rt seat of a 767. You really produce a pilot with almost nothing to offer in experience when fighting wx, slippery runways, high terrain, language barriers, all the different countries procedures that take years to learn. The Captain is really just single pilot, as I said alot of work. We have seen an uptick of upgrade failures because of only being at the airline a couple of years and really only flying a few select routes.

At AJT is more like the autopilot is the only pilot.

V1rotate2500 09-14-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Helocargo (Post 3494664)
At AJT is more like the autopilot is the only pilot.

You mean everywhere it’s 2022 bud.

The Dominican 09-14-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3494628)
So again....since we are taking about Carriers in the US, where pilots move around, not very probable or cost effective. I think the discussion was about hiring low time 172 type and move them into the rt seat of a 767. You really produce a pilot with almost nothing to offer in experience when fighting wx, slippery runways, high terrain, language barriers, all the different countries procedures that take years to learn. The Captain is really just single pilot, as I said alot of work. We have seen an uptick of upgrade failures because of only being at the airline a couple of years and really only flying a few select routes.

I've been an airline training captain for 22 out of my 40 years flying. I can assure you that you don't need to explain how it works since I have trained everything from cadets to experienced pilots.
Like I have already mentioned to the original post writer that it is possible but a difficult route to take since these programs are not designed for low experienced pilots.


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