That was my point. He seems like one of the good guys, I appreciate his work and admire the fact he posts on these boards. So Pls go to bat for us on this extremley important subject. We need some good news for the crew force in these very interesting times....

 

Check6 Hits the nail on the head with this one. Past practice trumps FCIF by a mile. In a recent discussion with one of the senior people (30,000 - 50,000 employee number) in the expense report office, I was told that this change in policy is from 2005 exclusively. She said that this change (and it is a change implemented by an FCIF that borders on being misleading) was specifically put in place to stop deviators from waiting until a ticket had been issued to initiate deviation.

If FECAV8R is whom I think, then he is a great guy, but I challenge him to find an instace of a ticketed fare being rejected as an adjustment to the deviation bank prior to this suspect FCIF. I can guarantee that there are hundreds if not thousands of emails and expense reports, which will confirm that this was accepted practice prior to and since 2005. WE ARE NOT PILOTS GETTING AWAY WITH ANYTHING, PULLING FAST ONES, OR SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS, but we are collectively p.....ies(colloquial synonym for a cat) myself included if we cannot win this one.

 

I dont think our argument is with FECAV8R or the company. Our argument is with contract enforcement if they aren't willing to go to bat over this. Bean counters are here to squeeze every nickle they can find; it is up to us and/with ALPA to draw the line.

The way I see it: the contract language was always ambiguous but the practice was not. After the contract was signed (same language) the company tried to enforce their view an FCIF.

 

He is a great $hit. Wish he would put in for SCP someday...

 

There is some validity to this point.

ALPA must grieve things they feel are not being lived up to in the contract.

Most often a grievance must be filed by a crewmember or member(s) to get the ball rolling.

Not to pick on anyone in contract Admin (now called contract enforcement)
but the folks in there are not Crewmembers. They are good folks and work on our behalf, but often because this stuff doesn't affect them personally they don't always understand the devil in the details.

If you folks are all have similar problems and you think it is a big deal.....
Get together via PM's on this board or private email,
Get a list of Names employees numbers and examples of claims being denied
or approved.

Just my opinion but the if the folks in Contract enforcement file a grievance, it only increases their workload.
So I guess what I am saying is get together and File a "JOINT" grievance and
becuase if you don't file it there is a good chance nobody else will and if one isn't filed I can assure you things will not change.