I think ATSG is getting a bunch. But that does not translate to ABX operating them unfortunately. Big business at ATSG is leasing.

How are things over at ATI. Seems to be the "primary" Amazon contractor for lack of a better term. Thank you

Yeah. True. And also why I left. The ATSG airlines have no diversity. Lose one customer.....and you are completely sunk. ABX with DHL.....and ATI with Amazon. There is no sales department at ALL. They just depend on the giving hand. That will only last so long.......

You made the right choice. With Hete gone it will get worse under Soaper. The business model is anything but getting flying business.

Any news of actual new hires classes? Seems like they are adding to the pool, anyone know how many are in the pool etc?

upgrade time?
 

profile page says upgrade is 24 years. LMAO
surely you jest.

what is it for real?

Not really funny if you're a 23 year 11 month FO. Do you kick dogs also?

yes, I kick dogs and spit in old ladies faces.
ANYWAY.. it’s a legitimate question- the profiles on here are frequently not updated. Why would anyone want to go there if the upgrade time is that long?

Really.....DHL screw up going from 115 aircraft to operating 13. Close to 1K pilots furloughed down to 190. Rebuild the airline back to profit and more aircraft. Yes upgrades are slow in coming. With the upgrades planned this yr...all legacy pilots will be in the left seat that want it. That would leave the 2016 hires next inline....5 yrs to upgrade. Take a look at any airline that furloughed 80 percent of the pilot group and see how long the upgrades were. Please do some research on your own if you are really "legitimate" try Google or anything else instead of APC for information for Christ's sake.

Thanks for the useful information. No thanks for your condescending and sarcastic tone.
Glad to hear upgrades and the future are improving.
Have a nice day.