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nitefr8dog 05-21-2020 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX (Post 3061458)
Thanks for the useful information. No thanks for your condescending and sarcastic tone.
Glad to hear upgrades and the future are improving.
Have a nice day.

You are welcome....also I am sure your jacka$$ LMAO remark was heartfelt.

vroll1800 05-21-2020 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 3061337)
Really.....DHL screw up going from 115 aircraft to operating 13. Close to 1K pilots furloughed down to 190. Rebuild the airline back to profit and more aircraft. Yes upgrades are slow in coming. With the upgrades planned this yr...all legacy pilots will be in the left seat that want it. That would leave the 2016 hires next inline....5 yrs to upgrade. Take a look at any airline that furloughed 80 percent of the pilot group .....

There are many airlines that went Tango Uniform that furloughed a lot less than 80% of pilot group. Truly remarkable, and a tribute to the ABX pilot group that they survived that calamity and played a key role in building ABX up to where they are now vs 2009.

abxflyr 05-22-2020 12:04 AM

I personally do not believe the numbers posted are completely accurate. Generally speaking the first 11 or 12 first officers are not going to upgrade to captain (by their choice). Before you get to a 5 year guy there are 16 other f/o's (legacy) who will most likely take the proffers as they are offered. I would expect 10 captains to be upgraded this calendar year (+/- 2) leaving about 6 or so for the following year, 2021. So, without significant change (insert giggle here), it will most likely middle of next year (a year from this post) before a non-legacy first officer has an opportunity. Hope I'm wrong! :)

nitefr8dog 05-22-2020 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by abxflyr (Post 3061626)
I personally do not believe the numbers posted are completely accurate. Generally speaking the first 11 or 12 first officers are not going to upgrade to captain (by their choice). Before you get to a 5 year guy there are 16 other f/o's (legacy) who will most likely take the proffers as they are offered. I would expect 10 captains to be upgraded this calendar year (+/- 2) leaving about 6 or so for the following year, 2021. So, without significant change (insert giggle here), it will most likely middle of next year (a year from this post) before a non-legacy first officer has an opportunity. Hope I'm wrong! :)

Yes....nothing is chiseled in stone. It is aviation and ABX after all. But who cares? One or two numbers either way. Have you talked to the fo's? I have...the ones who are eligible and want it number 13. Standards said 13 to upgrade this yr...that is a moving target but as close as it gets. Puts us one legacy FO (2000) hire date away..no more 22yr fo's as the bottom legacy fo has 18 yrs. Either way my response was more to the reason than the numbers.

captainpfos 06-05-2020 08:44 AM

Assessment during application process
 
Anybody have any information on what the assessment contains during the application process?

wjcandee 07-09-2020 05:13 PM

ABX Nice New 2-Plane Europe Rotation for DHL
 
A tip of the hat to my friends at ABX, and lets hope these flights last for a while, but for the moment at least, they're doing a nice 2-plane rotation ORD-EMA-CGN-EMA-ORD. One plane leaves, say, Wednesday morning and returns Thursday evening, while the other leaves Thursday morning and returns Friday evening, and so on. Currently using N317CM and N371CM, but ABX moves planes around a lot among assignments. The recent-but-now-returned-to-Amerijet CVG-EMA turns used a couple of the Pratt-powered 763s (219CY, 220CY and 226CY have Pratts), as well as 317CM.

Would be even nicer if they could get N363CM and N364CM (2 of their 9 767-300s) back on line from maint.

HighWingingIt 07-16-2020 11:31 AM

Anyone that’s applied hear back on anything? I’ve applied a couple months ago and nothing but crickets. I know they’ve ran a couple small classes as of late.

hamsandwich 07-16-2020 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by HighWingingIt (Post 3093120)
Anyone that’s applied hear back on anything? I’ve applied a couple months ago and nothing but crickets. I know they’ve ran a couple small classes as of late.

Same boat. No luck even with the help of a few internals.

HighWingingIt 07-16-2020 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by hamsandwich (Post 3093140)
Same boat. No luck even with the help of a few internals.


I’ve got an internal too. Nothing.

abxflyr 07-16-2020 02:51 PM

ABX just started a class of 6 a few days ago. For now, nothing else planned in the near future. Of course there is always the possibility for another class or so but since there is no movement (i.e. attrition) I would not expect much.

In general, the company is less than stagnate and may be moving backwards. No growth, no pilot contract, poor working conditions. The pilot market is in turmoil so I respect those that need the job, regardless of its value. Wish I could offer more.


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