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Old 04-09-2020, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazingSaddles View Post
true the slight difference is that when amazon goes into a new market they do it with the intent to dominate. Bezos has said before “their profit margins are our chance to to come in lower”. Not an exact quote but you can get the point. Amazon makes most of its money from AWS so al the marketplace, shipping, etc can be done at almost break even cost. Yeah that may not always be the desire but it can be done and they still stay in business and making money whereas a business that only serves one market can’t. Take Walmart. People used to hate Walmart for putting other businesses out of business. Look how many amazon has run under and people still love them.....and they probably will until they get so big they’re the only choice and their prices go up. I don’t know if any other company that’s come in and tried to take over just about every market they can get into except amazon
I think the above is capitalism 101. Remember, the founders of NetFlix originally went to BlockBuster Video with their idea first.

Blockbuster laughed them out of the office.

then NetFlix got created and "dominated" per free market forces.
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Old 04-09-2020, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazingSaddles View Post
Bezos has said before “their profit margins are our chance to to come in lower”. Not an exact quote but you can get the point.
https://www.marketplacepulse.com/art...my-opportunity


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Old 04-09-2020, 11:28 AM
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thanks. I was way tooooo lazy to look it back up. And like I said. If your company makes most of its money off of something else well the Marketplace and other ventures can run at almost break even. Hard to compete with that. Even for a short time. All amazon has to do.....and seems to be trying to do is dominate every market it goes into with undercutting prices until they’re the only one left. We bought amazon stock almost a decade ago but we stopped using any of their products or services long long ago because of Bezo and his practices.
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I make an active effort to try and limit the amount of money I spend at any Amazon owned company. It’s at best a pricing tool for me now and I’ll pay slightly more if I can get it from a non-Amazon company.
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I make an active effort to try and limit the amount of money I spend at any Amazon owned company. It’s at best a pricing tool for me now and I’ll pay slightly more if I can get it from a non-Amazon company.
Even Walmart has just about anything you find on Amazon for the same price or better and next day delivery. On that note...I bought a green egg at Ace Hardware. It was 35$ more but in my house within hours.Free delivery and they have all the accessories you can imagine in stock. Plus they are locally owned. Like buying local.
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Even Walmart has just about anything you find on Amazon for the same price or better and next day delivery. On that note...I bought a green egg at Ace Hardware. It was 35$ more but in my house within hours.Free delivery and they have all the accessories you can imagine in stock. Plus they are locally owned. Like buying local.
I tell people that Walmart and target both have pretty much everything that amazon has but like anything some people are groupies and won’t try anything else. I will say I love Walmart’s online grocery pickup. I now shops for groceries in my skivies and don’t have to worry about getting in trouble anymore 🤣
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Take Walmart. People used to hate Walmart for putting other businesses out of business. Look how many amazon has run under and people still love them
I think one huge advantage Amazon has is for the most part its operation is invisible to the consumer. There's a lovely web page and friendly packaging silently left at your doorstep and that's it. You go to Walmart and you see, well, People of Walmart. While Walmart has done a good job of pouring money into their stores cleaning them up its still deep down the same experience. The closest thing they have is the drive-up grocery service where you get the speed of in-store shopping without the in-store experience.

For Amazon nobody has to see how the sausage is made, so to speak. Warehouse workers in conditions that would make Kalfka squirm, exhausted delivery drivers and low paid pilots make the occasional page 2 headline but nobody really cares. They just whisper their desires to Alexa or tap on their smart phone and before you know it whatever they want is on their doorstep. Retail service just doesn't get much more elegant than that.
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Walmart, Target good stuff no doubt but for this exact moment - Bam, Amazon delivered 12 jumbo rolls (2 ply not 3) at the doorstep this AM, better than the military grade sand paper. Kind of addicted to TP.
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I think one huge advantage Amazon has is for the most part its operation is invisible to the consumer. There's a lovely web page and friendly packaging silently left at your doorstep and that's it. You go to Walmart and you see, well, People of Walmart. While Walmart has done a good job of pouring money into their stores cleaning them up its still deep down the same experience. The closest thing they have is the drive-up grocery service where you get the speed of in-store shopping without the in-store experience.

For Amazon nobody has to see how the sausage is made, so to speak. Warehouse workers in conditions that would make Kalfka squirm, exhausted delivery drivers and low paid pilots make the occasional page 2 headline but nobody really cares. They just whisper their desires to Alexa or tap on their smart phone and before you know it whatever they want is on their doorstep. Retail service just doesn't get much more elegant than that.
Disagree. Everyone sees these damn Amazon drivers who aren't trained, driving around the neighborhood like idiots. They usually aren't in a uniform. They look discheveled. And how many videos have caught them urinating or defecating on someone's property? Sure, FedEx, UPS and USPS has their winners too, but Amazon is not operating in a vacuum. Ask a truck driver how he or she is treated at an Amazon fulfillment center. Amazon isn't going to last long treating people like that.

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so Azure is playing catch up to Amazon then
Actually, Amazon is losing market share. And it isn't just Microsoft. It is Alibaba, Apple and Alphabet (Google) just to name the other big guys. And with businesses scared of letting Amazon pry into the workings and profits of their business, Amazon stands to lose more market share.

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You bet they will be back, it’s always been a cat and mouse game between FedEx and Amazon since 2016 or earlier.
I work for FedEx and I'd love to know what this cat and mouse game is? Are we talking about the fake Motley Fool articles and the like designed to throw the stocks one was or another based on garbage headlines or was there a real cat and mouse game I'm not aware of?

FedEx was ignorant of the moves Amazon made into B2B shipping. Amazon announcing B2B shipping was a wakeup call for sure. But as Fred Smith says, and I cringe a little, Amazon doesn't have anywhere near the worldwide shipping network that FedEx does -- yet.

The thing I don't get is, why would Amazon want to ship everyone else's products? Because there's profit to be made? They can't even efficiently ship their own stuff. They must rely on an entire list of third parties.

The result of this has been that they flooded their shipping markets resulting in the slowdown of delivering their Prime and Amazon website products. That is what made them famous and harming that product isn't smart.

The problem with Amazon is that they definitely aren't the cheapest as you now have Walmart, Target, Apple, Allibaba and an entire list of other companies competing in the eCommerce space with Amazon. Competition is good. And while Amazon is way ahead of everyone, they stand to lose the most as others compete.
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