Well you guys are right, I took a step back relaxed and thought about it. I was just p***ed that my Union does not listen to me or the other 66% (or whatever % it is). Albie you are right about all of it, while I have voted, don't fly DP and did my part last fall as an 11 F/O to help out the negotiations; I/ We need to get alot more Junior folks involved. Living here in MEM now I am going to get involved. I am not the sharpest tool in the shed but I know how to listen and that is what they are not doing. If no one else will step up to run that is brighter than me ( it will not take much) then I will run and campaign like a highschool student body election including posters on the wall and handing out candy. I wonder what would happen if a sophmore was running the Union instead of a sixth year senior. Let us remember that we need to use this board after we decide on the folks to run to get there names out and over to the office on Kirby. I sure hope we can say "MEC/LEC good riddance".

 

I'm not quitting the union. If any of you quit, you are quitting me and your fellow pilots. WE are the ones that stood shoulder to shoulder two years ago in 90+ degree heat outside the AOC wearing those stupid hats. WE are the ones that didn't fly the VLT/DFT...and the list goes on. WE ARE THE UNION!

Having said that, I just signed up for the recall too. I don't want DW anymore. In fact, I don't want ANY of those wusses pretending to "represent" me anymore!!!

 

NoKoolAid -

I can think of no other way to convey my anger and outrage for the MEC right now than to quit ALPA. Yes, the label of non-member isn't appealing to me in the least bit, but my problem with non-members in the past was specifically with the ones who didn't pay. If you were on dues check off, fine, don't be a member...just pay your share. Right now, this seems to be the better choice that to be a part of a union that thinks the word "democracy" and "majority" are just words on their 6th graders spelling test. Obviously, taking surveys when asked, wearing lanyards, buying hats, picketing, attending hub meetings, displaying bag tags and all of the other little things that I did to show support for the MEC didn't amount to a hill of beans. I thought that the massive amount of support displayed for the union this past year might be returned by respecting the majority opinion...I was wrong. Think of it this way and it will only frustrate you more: 66.1 percent of the guys that were picketing for a better contract, that flew in on their days off for union meeting, that turned down draft trip to show their solidarity...66.1 percent of those guys just got told "Thanks for your opinion, but I'll think we'll pass on it."

 

Dammmnnnn, NOKoolAid, I like your grit. Hock a loogy for me. I don't run with that crowd and wouldn't have the chance to add a little 'essence' to their cold ones.

 

Herk, don't cut your nose off. I know that you're "urinated" right now, as am I, but don't do anything that you will regret later on. Keep the faith.
fbh

 

Which begs the question: When exactly is a majority not a majority??

Easy, a majority is a minority when ALPA conducts a poll and the result isn't to their liking. It's got to be in the bylaws somewhere!

 

How do I get to any and all petitions to remove DW from office or remove ALPA from the premises?

 

I would expect nothing less from anybody on this forum that disagrees with today's actions by OUR Union leadership than writing a pointed letter to all Union officials that you feel integral to this decision.
I have personally written my block rep and told him I expected him to resign his position due to his lack of representation of the stance of his specific constituents.
And for those who say "what next"?...I intend to run for his position as soon as it is vacated or in the next election should he not do the right thing; which in doing so would also allow him "more time with his kids".
DW and his cronies are NOT our representatives. They clearly represent only their interests or positions, not ours.

 

Ok, here's a post with so meat and some legs. If your PO'ed, do somthing constructive about it. Just don't quit. If you like the idea of a recall, get it going. If you want change things take their office or join a committee. Well said Ham.

 

Guys...

From an outsider looking in, what does Fedex get out of alpa that they could not get with an inhouse union? Before you say "a seat at the table", it seems to me the seat you were assigned was a high chair. Out of all the alpa airlines, fedex has the most pilots affected by the proposed rule change to 65. Other airlines may stagnate some, but fedex pilots actually run the risk of losing relative seat seniority by ropes moving back to window seats.

I know this is a "done deal", but don't agree with the argument that you have to be onboard to affect policy. Maintaining a "hell no" attitude may not win you any friends at national alpa, but what have they done for you lately?

JMO

Pilot7576