Since I have been an ALPA member (10yrs) I have not felt like they have been on my side. At the regional level we were treated like a nuissance, now at the Major level there is no change b/c they still do not nor ever seem to have represented my interest. Let me start by saying I had many discussions w/ Prater before he was elected about the Age 60 issue, he bluntly told me the poll on Age 60 rule was wrong and that he was ALL FOR changing it no matter what the overall membership wanted. Then back when we had our (FDX) contract road show I questioned our Negotiating committee about VEBA and other contract benefits for those (I believe) age 54-59 which give no benefits to those that are junior/younger (ie the junior are usually the younger folks). This recent decision by our MEC and ALPA national shows me where there true allegiance lies with the top 10%. This truly is a topic that is going to hurt the unity of the membership if it has not already done so.

Retroactivity in my opinion is also a senior issue that was pushed for by our SENIOR MEC. I have respect for everyone's opinion but the majority should set the precedent.

So 10 yrs of taxation without representation; please someone tell why I should not become a nonmember on checkoff? I have already thrown away my FDX ALPA lanyard because they apparently do not represent the best interest of me and my family.

 

A long time ago, I learned a lesson the hard way.... Never trust a fat man with a mustache.

Not sure what the two have to do with each other, but it sure sounded good/made me feel better at the time.

Oh boy, I might have just invoked the wrath of FMWMAASR (That would be Fat Men With Mustaches Against Age Sixty Rule).

Maybe you could trade your ALPA lanyard in for a WWFMWMAASRD? Lanyard (That would be a What Would Fat Men With Mustaches Against Age Sixty Rule Do? Lanyard)



If you don't laugh about this you might cry!!

 

If you quit ALPA you lose your ability to vote, to be part of a recall, and like it or not you will look like all the other current Pro-Management Cheap-A$$ Non-Union scoundrels out there...
Your choice, but if you quit the Union you are giving up a chance to at least be part of the solution, and will embolden the company by becoming part of the problem (the company loves this issue for this reason and so much more).

 

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A long time ago, I learned a lesson the hard way.... Never trust a fat man with a mustache.

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now that is just too funny!

 

Seniority numbers of MEC members:

412
652
1276
1820
2054
2742
3207
3920
457
2187
415
810


Yepp, it's loaded.




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3/4 are in the top 50% seniority.

1/2 are in the top 25%(or close) seniority.

Only 1/4 are in the bottom 50% seniority.

I never realized how senior the MEC was.

 

How about: Term limits for MEC and Block Reps? I"ll vote for that.

 

My frustration with the FDX MEC & the age 60 rule lies not with the fact that the rule is changing (or the decision for ALPA to switch positions) but rather with the fact that at last count, 70% of our pilots didn't want it to change. My understanding is that this was a number from several years ago, but that it still pretty much represents the general atmosphere of our crewmembers today. The MEC has thrown the "62% want us to be a part of the change" number around enough, but never came out and said what percentage of our crewmembers wanted us to stand up and fight against the change in the first place. To me, Captain Webb's vote for the change is essentially the same thing as if the majority of the citizen's of a state voted for one presidential candidate, but at the electoral college, the state's votes were cast for the other candidate "just because it looked like the other guy (or gal) was going to win". I would have supported the union on this if they had carried the majority's opinion about the change with him to the table and atleast tried to make a stand; I am awaiting a call from the MEC right now to find out what the exact percentage was of our crewmembers who don't or didn't want the change....if it is 50.1% or greater, I plan on resigning my ALPA membership effective this afternoon. UPDATE: Just got the call from the MEC and 66.1% of our pilots didn't/don't want the change! Looks like I'm gonig to become the very thing I hate the most...

 

They already serve for set terms, and the voter turnout is pathetic. If you want them out, run against them.





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TonyC, now match up the seniority numbers with their age.....