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Nugget#69 05-26-2007 04:25 PM

OK for the record the ALPA reps at indoc were good guys and mentioned all the good ALPA has done. I didn't want this to come off bad, I thought I was just stating a fact.

Now since I'm here I'll through in my $.02. I don't know why everyone is so worriied at FedEx about the age 60 rule. 80% of the Capts I have flown with say they are going to retire at 60 regardless of the rule. Unless the rule change makes it so they can't without some major penalty. With that said, people worrying about upgrade really don't have much of an argument. Second, I know we would like to stop this but the reality is; it is going to change. There are just too many heavy hitters trying to make it happen. Now the way I see it, the best way to keep the upgrade flow going, is to make it so that 80% can go ahead and retire without a penalty. This seems to the direction ALPA is heading.

RedeyeAV8r 05-26-2007 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by fdxflyer (Post 171591)
Past decisions, experiences, and sacrifices mean nothing in a discussion like this. Your past difficulties don't make you more correct no matter which side of a disagreement you are on. If I had the biggest story of sacrifice and difficulty, would I be right??? Thought so.

Let's argue about whether we "did the right thing" on the merits -- not merit badges!!

I agree with you ,

but when I hear young guys that have been here only less than 3 years saying it's all about ME ME ME,: excuse me for getting my feathers ruffled.

Now the bottom line is The rule is going to change. ALPA leaders have tried to tell everyone that it is over........some choose not to believe it.
Some think it is all a conspiracy. Move on, it's coming.

Now we have to focus on what can be done to lesson the negative effects.

Huck 05-26-2007 05:00 PM


Pal tell me how long you have been here.
Oh my God... you did it again! Please keep track of whose resume you are questioning. Here - I'll help you:

http://airlinepilotforums.com/showth...925#post163925

Busboy 05-26-2007 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Nugget#69 (Post 171612)
... I don't know why everyone is so worriied at FedEx about the age 60 rule. 80% of the Capts I have flown with say they are going to retire at 60 regardless of the rule. Unless the rule change makes it so they can't without some major penalty. With that said, people worrying about upgrade really don't have much of an argument...

How many retirement notice FCIFs have you read lately? I haven't seen any.

I know of at least 13 guys that turned 60 in the last 60 days. All but one still have a calendar, of some sort.

RedeyeAV8r 05-26-2007 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=Huck;171629]Oh my God... you did it again! Please keep track of whose resume you are questioning.
QUOTE]

So great, this isn't your first crack at it.
But you must admit you are still doing pretty dam good for someone who has been at a company less than 5 years. You could still be a Capt a Gemini or World but your an FO here making almost double. I get it...........
Your making my point. It's all about "me me me............."

I get it You want 6o guys to leave..............I wish I could be around as you near 60.

I wish I predict the future with certainty

FoxHunter 05-26-2007 06:09 PM

[QUOTE=MX727;171566]

Originally Posted by matty (Post 171531)

We were all on permanent probation prior to ALPA/FPA/ALPA.

1. How many pilots were fired and stayed fired 1993-2007 with ALPA/FPA/ALPA?

2. How many pilots were fired and stayed 1972-1993 fired prior to ALPA/FPA/ALPA?

Busboy 05-26-2007 06:12 PM

Please enlighten us.

I'm sure you must have those figures.

matty 05-26-2007 06:47 PM

Come on FoxHunter...you quoted the wrong person...but, I am still curious about the answer.

FR8Hauler 05-26-2007 09:13 PM

Thanks for rolling over ALPA and our MEC. Yes, I am ****ed too. FedEx is the highest dues paying airline today in ALPA. A little known fact. So why are we still the "red-headed stepchildren"?

Toccata 05-27-2007 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by FR8Hauler (Post 171748)
Thanks for rolling over ALPA and our MEC. Yes, I am ****ed too. FedEx is the highest dues paying airline today in ALPA. A little known fact. So why are we still the "red-headed stepchildren"?

For clarification, do you mean the total amount of dues paid by the FedEx crewforce, or the percent of our income we pay for dues?


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