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Old 08-08-2020, 05:17 AM
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Wow... I'd assumed it was a massive crosswind but it looks like the winds were right down the runway with 10 knot gusts. I'm sure it was a somewhat tricky approach but that doesn't sound that cosmic... I wonder if someone completely chopped the power...
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Old 08-08-2020, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Wow... I'd assumed it was a massive crosswind but it looks like the winds were right down the runway with 10 knot gusts. I'm sure it was a somewhat tricky approach but that doesn't sound that cosmic... I wonder if someone completely chopped the power...
More like 28G40......no doubt low level turbulence .

Incident: Atlas B744 at Shanghai on Aug 5th 2020, triple engine pod strike
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Old 08-08-2020, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
More like 28G40......no doubt low level turbulence .

Incident: Atlas B744 at Shanghai on Aug 5th 2020, triple engine pod strike
Oh yeah... Definitely a tricky approach but since they were mostly down the runway... I'll be interested to hear what happened on this one because I'm trying to wrap my brain around how you strike 3 pods. As has already been mentioned it's difficult to do that... They either bounced and wing rocked or I'm wondering if it's possible for the wings to flex on an insanely hard landing.
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:24 AM
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I've flown with the Captain involved in this incident a few times, and he seemed like a good stick. The winds in PVG do some strange things midfield where T3 & T4 bisect the field between terminals, especially when they're strong and gusty. Maybe that was a factor.
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I've flown with the Captain involved in this incident a few times, and he seemed like a good stick. The winds in PVG do some strange things midfield where T3 & T4 bisect the field between terminals, especially when they're strong and gusty. Maybe that was a factor.
did the F/O do the landing though?
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did the F/O do the landing though?
No idea. I was digging through Hawk looking for a post flight report in the Messages, but didn't see one.
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Old 08-08-2020, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dba74 View Post
did the F/O do the landing though?

My sources say it was the FO's landing
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Do we really want to evaluating this event here with snippets of second and third hand information? Are we really being fair to our own pilots? The data will come out with QAR data, and through the work of if the ERC. Once the real facts are established then we'll be able to say something intelligently.

These crewmembers are dealing with a lot today. Speculation is a natural part of these events, so I don't judge anyone for wondering what happened. Still, it's not helpful at this point. Perhaps it may be time to get some message out to dial back the speculation til the facts emerge? The union has done this in the past

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Old 08-08-2020, 03:33 PM
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Allow the ASAP and TAP ROOT processes run their course... Just saying.
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