Almost got number three.... Darn!
#21
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Do we really want to evaluating this event here with snippets of second and third hand information? Are we really being fair to our own pilots? The data will come out with QAR data, and through the work of if the ERC. Once the real facts are established then we'll be able to say something intelligently.
These crewmembers are dealing with a lot today. Speculation is a natural part of these events, so I don't judge anyone for wondering what happened. Still, it's not helpful at this point. Perhaps it may be time to get some message out to dial back the speculation til the facts emerge? The union has done this in the past
These crewmembers are dealing with a lot today. Speculation is a natural part of these events, so I don't judge anyone for wondering what happened. Still, it's not helpful at this point. Perhaps it may be time to get some message out to dial back the speculation til the facts emerge? The union has done this in the past
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I have heard stories of Atlas chief pilots questioning crewmembers after go arounds. I always felt that this type of questioning could lead to pilots continuing unstable approaches when the best course of action is to go around and try again. Could they have been trying to save an unstable approach in gusty winds, just to avoid scrutiny from a chief pilot?
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I have heard stories of Atlas chief pilots questioning crewmembers after go arounds. I always felt that this type of questioning could lead to pilots continuing unstable approaches when the best course of action is to go around and try again. Could they have been trying to save an unstable approach in gusty winds, just to avoid scrutiny from a chief pilot?
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I'm by no means a "company man", but have never been questioned about a go-around, or ever heard about anyone being questioned for a go-around here. It's quite the opposite, actually. They're adamant about being stable at the 1000' gate, and hammer it hard during training.
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I have heard stories of Atlas chief pilots questioning crewmembers after go arounds. I always felt that this type of questioning could lead to pilots continuing unstable approaches when the best course of action is to go around and try again. Could they have been trying to save an unstable approach in gusty winds, just to avoid scrutiny from a chief pilot?
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I have heard stories of Atlas chief pilots questioning crewmembers after go arounds. I always felt that this type of questioning could lead to pilots continuing unstable approaches when the best course of action is to go around and try again. Could they have been trying to save an unstable approach in gusty winds, just to avoid scrutiny from a chief pilot?
Perhaps your friend was getting a response on the report he filed rather than a "Why did you miss?" call?
#29
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I havent heard of this. We have a no-fault go-around policy here like most airlines. Our verbiage of that policy requests but does not require reports after a go around. (We can discuss the merits and lack thereof of this requested report at some length.)
Perhaps your friend was getting a response on the report he filed rather than a "Why did you miss?" call?
Perhaps your friend was getting a response on the report he filed rather than a "Why did you miss?" call?
You all obviously have much more insight into the flying culture at Atlas than I do, so I’ll defer to your opinions based on your first hand knowledge, and not my 3rd hand hearsay!
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Regardless I hope your friend is doing well.
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