A60 DC-10 S/Os
06-09-2007 | 02:41 AM
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From: DC10 Captain
The following CBA section applies to regulated age situations. As mentioned in a previous post, the phrase "no second officer crew seats" is not very definitive. Since it does not specify that a vacancy must exist, one interpretation could be that as long as a B727 or DC10 is on the property, second officer crew seats exist. Per the CBA, as long as the age restricted crewmember is senior to someone currently holding a crew seat, he is "accommodated".
23. A. 2.
Notwithstanding the provisions of Section 23.A.1. and B.1., the following apply to a pilot subject to a regulated age restriction:
a. If the pilot is involuntarily excessed from his current crew position and, as a result of his restriction, he is ineligible to be awarded or assigned any other crew position, the pilot may be furloughed.
b. The pilot may be bypassed on recall from furlough until there is an available crew position that he is eligible to be awarded or assigned.
c. A restricted pilot who cannot move to or be accommodated as a second officer from another crew position because his relative seniority is less than the current population of second officers or there are no second officer crew seats, shall be offered the opportunity to retire as provided in the Agreement. Following a pilot's rejection of the offer, the pilot shall be released from employment as provided in Section 22.B.1., and shall not be considered as having been furloughed in cases where the only crew status the pilot can occupy is second officer.
Since second officer training dates are being awarded regardless of vacancies existing, looks like the S/O seats in both aircraft have the potential to be overstaffed.
23. A. 2.
Notwithstanding the provisions of Section 23.A.1. and B.1., the following apply to a pilot subject to a regulated age restriction:
a. If the pilot is involuntarily excessed from his current crew position and, as a result of his restriction, he is ineligible to be awarded or assigned any other crew position, the pilot may be furloughed.
b. The pilot may be bypassed on recall from furlough until there is an available crew position that he is eligible to be awarded or assigned.
c. A restricted pilot who cannot move to or be accommodated as a second officer from another crew position because his relative seniority is less than the current population of second officers or there are no second officer crew seats, shall be offered the opportunity to retire as provided in the Agreement. Following a pilot's rejection of the offer, the pilot shall be released from employment as provided in Section 22.B.1., and shall not be considered as having been furloughed in cases where the only crew status the pilot can occupy is second officer.
Since second officer training dates are being awarded regardless of vacancies existing, looks like the S/O seats in both aircraft have the potential to be overstaffed.
06-09-2007 | 05:05 AM
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The latest crew bus rumor regarding slots I heard was 75 +/- for the 10 S/O at the end of the training cycle. So the excess will be spread over the next 18 months to 2 years. Roughly speaking that would mean that anyone with a number greater then 11xxxx will have to move to the 727. Or go home and enjoy the bigger retirement check.
