777 pay
06-08-2007, 07:57 AM
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777 pay
Anybody know what the plan is on 777 pay? Is it to be paid like an A-310 or an A-380? Certainly, during negotiations the beancounters for the union and the company costed out the higher pay scale as a percentage of the total $$ package. Now what happens to that amount?
06-08-2007, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
Anybody know what the plan is on 777 pay?
K. New Aircraft In Service
1. If the Company wishes to place into operation any aircraft above the MTOGW limits outlined in Section 1, [Sec. 1.B.: "over 60,000 lbs. MTOGW"] other than the aircraft for which rates of pay are established in Section 3 of this Agreement, the following shall apply:
a. The Company or the Association may, by written request, initiate conferences to negotiate agreements governing whether that equipment shall be considered a wide-body, narrow-body, or some new category of aircraft for the purposes of pay. Conferences shall commence no later than 30 days following receipt of the written request for those conferences.
b. If no agreement has been reached within 30 days following commencement of conferences, a non-disciplinary panel of the System Board shall be convened as provided in Section 21 for the purpose of establishing whether that equipment shall be considered a wide-body, narrow-body, or some new category of aircraft for the purposes of pay, notwithstanding the provisions of Section 21.A.4. (Jurisdiction of System Board).
c. The decision of the System Board shall be incorporated into this Agreement by reference. If the Company has placed the aircraft in service at a designated rate of pay before the System Board issues its decision, then the rates of pay determined by the System Board shall be applied retroactively.
d. The provisions of Section 31 of this Agreement shall not prevent the operation of Section 26.K.
2. If the Company introduces B737 and/or B757 aircraft, those aircraft will be considered narrow body aircraft.
3. A-380 pay rates are as provided in Section 3.
It's not a narrow-body, or a wide-body, it's not a B737 or B757 or A-380. I'm bettin' it will be "some new category of aircraft for the purposes of pay."
I'm predicting we'll negotiate.
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06-08-2007, 08:57 AM
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If you do a search on this subject you'll find it well discussed, thank you Tony for bringing the main section to light.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...=777+fedex+pay
OK, I think I did it. Not a real computer pro, even though I'm one of those yet-to-be-30 computer generation kids. Yeah, right.
I hope a look at the previous thread can give you some background on the issues and spark more discourse here.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...=777+fedex+pay
OK, I think I did it. Not a real computer pro, even though I'm one of those yet-to-be-30 computer generation kids. Yeah, right.
I hope a look at the previous thread can give you some background on the issues and spark more discourse here.
06-08-2007, 10:24 AM
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[QUOTE=FoxHunter;177257]
Since it weighs less than the 747-200 I'll bet you'll see that pay.
The only reason the 747 paid that was because of the Tiger purchase. Not like the Purple guys or the Tiger guys had much say in the pay rate.
What was the 747 rate in '89 pre-purchase?
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
Since it weighs less than the 747-200 I'll bet you'll see that pay.
What was the 747 rate in '89 pre-purchase?
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06-08-2007, 01:29 PM
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[QUOTE=130JDrvr;177332]
The only reason the 747 paid that was because of the Tiger purchase. Not like the Purple guys or the Tiger guys had much say in the pay rate.
What was the 747 rate in '89 pre-purchase?
Past...
That's a great question. What was 747 pay at the merger, in todays dollars??
Originally Posted by FoxHunter
The only reason the 747 paid that was because of the Tiger purchase. Not like the Purple guys or the Tiger guys had much say in the pay rate.
What was the 747 rate in '89 pre-purchase?
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06-08-2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
OK got it, "Ultra Long Range" pay. Still, it that piece of the overall "pot" of gold that we negotiated, available? Or has it vanished into a big MBO award somewhere?
Makes you wonder doesn't it.
Maybe the Company knew well before hand that they intended to cancel the 380 while they let ALPA spend time and manpower negotiating the 380 payrate. All for naught.
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