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Old 10-08-2021, 08:44 AM
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Would extend 117 to cargo pilots...


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”Similar bills have been introduced in the House and Senate since 2012.”

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Would extend 117 to cargo pilots...


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No thanks. Worked under 117 in a previous life. 117 isn't tailored for cargo ops, especially at FedEx.
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No thanks. Worked under 117 in a previous life. 117 isn't tailored for cargo ops, especially at FedEx.
Can you give examples of why it is not?
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I'll take them. We have trans Pacific and Atlantic flights. My 767 cargo configured aircraft doesn't have any rest facilities. The only way we'll ever get them is through legislation and not company negotiations.
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No thanks. Worked under 117 in a previous life. 117 isn't tailored for cargo ops, especially at FedEx.
Are you in management? Given how much money UPS and FedEx spent on anti-117 lobbying,why would you side with them?
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Are you in management? Given how much money UPS and FedEx spent on anti-117 lobbying,why would you side with them?

I’m not quite sure just how this would change things with cargo ops, but it may be short sighted to think this is good for pilots just because it’s bad for management.

In my pax flying days, it definitely gave me more rest opportunity, but absolutely destroyed my QOL. I was never a fan of 117 and most I knew agreed.
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I’m not quite sure just how this would change things with cargo ops, but it may be short sighted to think this is good for pilots just because it’s bad for management.

In my pax flying days, it definitely gave me more rest opportunity, but absolutely destroyed my QOL. I was never a fan of 117 and most I knew agreed.
Hi Flyguy,
Honest question here. Other than 4 years as a pax commuter pilot in the 90s, I’ve flown nothing but part 121 freight since then. I can see by the charts in the 117 rules, that rest periods are better and governed by circadian rhythm. But, again coming from a 121 freight guy, how did it affect your quality of life and why do you believe it was adversely affected?

TIA, FAJ
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