A350F being looked at for Single Pilot Ops
12-10-2021 | 06:04 AM
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The increase in landing distance using autoland for the 747-400 is due to the AFM statement that when using auto brakes with autoland operations, touchdown should be assumed to occur at 2500 feet from the runway threshold. The 747-400 was certified under 25-7 when the flare distance was 4 seconds, or approximately 1000 feet and the associated advisory landing distances in the FCOM were based on the 1000' touchdown. After TALPA-ARC, the FCOM now includes the 1500' touchdown recommendation. As such, the autoland distances add 1000' or 1500', depending on whether the advisory distances are non-TALPA (unfactored) or TALPA. Western Global was not using the TALPA distances (factored). An amendment to Part 25 around 2011 changed the way AFM air distance is calculated. As such, later Boeing models use a flare time rather than a fixed distance. For the 747-8, the landing distances assume a 7 second flare distance. Thus the heavier the landing weight, the longer the flare distance. Due to this, the AFM doesn't include any additive for autoland distances.
12-10-2021 | 12:13 PM
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Space travel has always had autonomy, since the days of Gemini/Apollo. That doesn't mean that just because we can operate 2 or 3 space craft at one time autonomously, that we can suddenly, and should start operating thousands and thousands of airliners autonomously on Earth over populated areas.
I honestly do not understand this obsession people have with single pilot ops or no pilots ops. We have fully staffed/crewed container ships criss-crossing literally thousands of miles of wide open oceans. I see nothing on the near horizon where those will be "Single sailor" operated, yet for some reason (money) single pilot ops is constantly pushed so we can operate a more crowded sky with less oversight from a crew.
I honestly do not understand this obsession people have with single pilot ops or no pilots ops. We have fully staffed/crewed container ships criss-crossing literally thousands of miles of wide open oceans. I see nothing on the near horizon where those will be "Single sailor" operated, yet for some reason (money) single pilot ops is constantly pushed so we can operate a more crowded sky with less oversight from a crew.
12-10-2021 | 03:49 PM
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I honestly do not understand this obsession people have with single pilot ops or no pilots ops. We have fully staffed/crewed container ships criss-crossing literally thousands of miles of wide open oceans. I see nothing on the near horizon where those will be "Single sailor" operated, yet for some reason (money) single pilot ops is constantly pushed so we can operate a more crowded sky with less oversight from a crew.
Do agree the large ship program hasn’t established transatlantic/transpacific standard ops as of yet. Definitely not a high congestion issue compared to aviation but: A 262ft autonomous electric container ship is already tested/running around Norway, by no means transatlantic, yet…. (Probably battery limited, solar panels in the Southern Regions? Hmmm) In 2016 U.S. Navy launched an autonomous small vessel from Hawaii to the mainland with an observation crew for test purposes. Same platform is now being expanded beyond roles of submarine warfare to create the U.S Navy “Ghost Fleet.” Pretty sure their requirements will be more robust than a large cargo vessel just cruising in open water with no strategic/tactical value. Tech is already there, just a matter of phasing out old hulls for new ones. Small number of ships compared to aircraft on a daily basis shows no need to have an accelerated program when using crew requirement comparisons worldwide.
Not advocating, just being aware is everything.
12-13-2021 | 09:29 AM
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Space travel has always had autonomy, since the days of Gemini/Apollo. That doesn't mean that just because we can operate 2 or 3 space craft at one time autonomously, that we can suddenly, and should start operating thousands and thousands of airliners autonomously on Earth over populated areas.
12-14-2021 | 02:14 PM
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301440717.html
ugh. Maybe a little closer than we’d like to think.
ugh. Maybe a little closer than we’d like to think.
12-14-2021 | 03:31 PM
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301440717.html
ugh. Maybe a little closer than we’d like to think.
ugh. Maybe a little closer than we’d like to think.
12-14-2021 | 05:59 PM
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301440717.html
ugh. Maybe a little closer than we’d like to think.
ugh. Maybe a little closer than we’d like to think.
Ameriflight:
"Look! We have the solution to the pilot shortage! More automation!"
*MCAS HAS ENTERED THE CHAT*
Seriously, how much more bent metal and lost lives will it take?!
12-14-2021 | 07:01 PM
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Just wait. When cargo planes are automated and pilots removed(we all know cargo planes will be the first)..and then they start crashing due to automation failure…then people will start caring.
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