So if a person off the street is hired as a 757 Capt on first year pay, his pay rate is what? $40 $50 bucks an hour. Talk about making it to the show.......:eek:

Different thought, If the company wants to play hard ball then I can play too, say 10,000 extra gas every flight. Safety first.........................

I thought we collectively decided "2700" extra everyflight?

Do you really think FedEx wants to hire foreign pilots?

If they wanted to hire foreign pilots they would have. FedEx is all about control. Heck, management feels they don't have enough control over the LAX domicile. If they could have it there way everyone would be based in Memphis. Now lets have Chinese pilots flying FedEx planes in Japan, Taipai, Phillipines, etc. For those who have flown in the pacific with Fedex imagine some of the headaches associated with that. What about the labor laws in France? Seems like labor strikes in France are as common as car chases in Los Angeles, they happen every week. FedEx is able to charge a premium for their services for one reason. Reliability. They lose that, they may as well charge 40 cents. Maybe, I am naive. But there is a difference in cost cutting measures and losing control. I think FedEx is more about control than anything else.

I am just sick and tired of being told vote yes, you have no choice this is the best we can get.

I would also guess very little movement into the Boeing, except for from the over-60 S/Os choosing either not to retire or to go on temporary LOA. That will be better known in about 15 days.

Well Rowdy you need to get more info, you talk about the FDX flying in Canada by MorningStar as a threat to the future. The truth is the reason MorningStar flies our freight is we are not allowed as a US Airline to fly intra Canada. That is why we fly to Canada from the US and they fly b/t Canadian cities exclusively. You will also see that this is already being done in China with 737's and Chinese pilots with the FDX logo. Also Rowdy you wouldn't be the one the other night in IND w/ the purple MEC lanyard preaching "YES to LOA or the World will catch fire". I am more ticked that my Union has not even thought about having a roadshow/meeting to give us time to ask questions about it, but they are Johnny come lately about a town hall meeting next month on Age 60. Oh well it is a "World will catch Fire Vote for Me", SVT SUCKS.

Come on, when we call this guy out, at least get your facts straight!!
1st year NB captain at DOS+1 pay scale is $161.85/hr. If you think someone off the street won't jump on that, you're smoking crack.

I am voting no, but I hate when someone who should know better pulls info out of thin air. It makes you look like the dumb one.

When the FAA finally issues it's final rule on the age 60 issue and the rule states you must be in a window seat at date of signing to fly to 65, then we will be short crewmembers. I wonder if most of the over 60 will bail in the same month?

Where is FedEx going to find all these foreign pilots when foreign company's are having a hard time finding crewmembers and hiring the U.S. over 60 guys??? Remember they would probably be working for a contractor not FedEx.

I vote no because of SVT!!!!!!!

I don't know why the company didn't just put out the bid at the same time as the LOA. Close the bid before the vote and we would have been presented with a list of people going regardless of the outcome of the vote. Then, a yes vote and they go with the LOA, a no vote and they go with nothing. Of course, this tactic would require that they tell us what a/c are going where. Also, although there are some here who say that folks will bid this whether there is an LOA or not, there are certainly more that will with this LOA, however egregious.

Hey Rowdy,
If we are overmanned by 500, why the 4 new hires just announced? Even if they are internals why would they be brought to the line if we have too many pilots already?

Ready to go...not
 

I was all ready to live the life (a life) in Paris, my wife was ready and the kids. I was pumped and while reading the LOA the SVT section flew completely under my radar.

What made me initially a NO was the lack of thought put into educating our kids overseas. We have done a good bit of research and private schools are going to be expensive over there. At one school year 1 for 3 kids would be $110,000. Year 2 would drop to a measly $70,000.

A union official told me the public school system is fine, or I could home school. First, anyone to even suggest the public school system in a country where English is not the primary language is moronic. Second, to suggest home schooling is plain laughable (not that there is anything wrong with it...no no, not at all). I find it ridiculous that a company would expect employees to happily go to another country (non-English speaking especially) and completely disregard the important issue of educating our children. Finally, I've heard, a few times, the justification that, "private school in Germantown costs $12,000 per year." It is my guess that most of us that have kids in private school probably also have a spouse that works...just a guess, but I don't see much possibility of spouses working at CDG or HKG.


Now, having gone back and re-read the SVT portion, it is not just NO, but NO-diddly-doo.