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E_Cereal 07-24-2007 10:10 PM

AF "other" time
 

Originally Posted by Riddler (Post 201602)
For the AF guys: does anyone know about "Other" time being included in TT?

I did not include Other time as a Copilot(MC: Form 4?) in any PIC or SIC.
I did include Other time as a Pilot(MP, IP, EP) in PIC and SIC. As the AC I logged Other time in the aircraft forms but I was still "solely responsible" for the aircraft which should be all PIC. There's a little more to calculating PIC and SIC but that seems to be the way that most ppl I've talked to have included Other time into PIC and SIC.

KC10 FATboy 07-25-2007 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by bifff15 (Post 201581)
AV8OR,
I ran an intercept on "a" tanker during Southern Watch and it turned out to be a KC-10 refueling another KC-10. Not something a fighter guy gets to see every day but totally cool to watch. It looks a whole lot tougher than what we go through on the boom!
Tankers refuel tankers for lots of reasons and adds to our capabilities tremendously.
Biff

Not to steal the intent of this thread, but one night during the big OIF push in Mar '03, I was refueling from another KC-10. Our scheduled receivers, a pair of F15Es, joined on us while we were still refueling. The weather wasn't very good. They kept calling out for us to lower our boom and to start AR. They didn't realize we were in contact with another tanker. This isn't the first time I've heard of this happening. Sometimes when we refuel we lose sight of the tanker (weather) and must disconnect.

-FATTY

AKWhale 07-27-2007 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 200475)
No 0.3 conversion for military guys? Perhaps I misread that somewhere. Anyone else know if UPS allows for a flight time conversion for military guys?

Thanks ...

-Fatty

When I was hired there was no conversion; doesn't sound like you need it though.

UPS1856 07-27-2007 06:36 PM

Fatboy,

Were you out of McGuire?

atpcliff 07-31-2007 05:53 PM

Hi!

I was in a "formation" (it wasn't organized-everyone just kept out of everyone else's way) of about 17 aircraft.

There were a bunch of F-117s flying home from deployment. They were assigned, either one or two each, to a KC-10. They would refuel from the KC-10s all the way home, and the KC-10s would refuel from other tankers while they escorted their baby chicks back to the states.

I was in a KC-135R, and we refueled the -10s from about S. Egypt to somewhere into the Med.

The modification of the KC-135s into the -Rs was supposed to have included refueling capabilities for ALL KC-135Rs, but it got expensive, so there was only about 15? -Rs that were converted to receive fuel.

ALL the tankers can hook up to a receiver and SUCK the fuel out, but it's a slow process.

Nowadays, the "new" -R model is old. The KC-135T now has no navigator and is all glass-down to just 3 crewmembers.

C U!
cliff
YIP

PS-In the R we could fly for 24 hours, or 12,000 miles. We also did lightweight pattern sorties (landing and takeoff practice) at about 115,000 lbs., with 90K thrust!

KC10 FATboy 08-01-2007 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by UPS1856 (Post 203726)
Fatboy,

Were you out of McGuire?

UPS1856, yes I am out of McGuire. 2nd Air Refueling Squadron ... been there since 2000 except for a year tour to Korea / Philippines.

-Fatty

BDGERJMN 08-01-2007 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 206331)
Hi!

I was in a "formation" (it wasn't organized-everyone just kept out of everyone else's way) of about 17 aircraft.

There were a bunch of F-117s flying home from deployment. They were assigned, either one or two each, to a KC-10. They would refuel from the KC-10s all the way home, and the KC-10s would refuel from other tankers while they escorted their baby chicks back to the states.

I was in a KC-135R, and we refueled the -10s from about S. Egypt to somewhere into the Med.

The modification of the KC-135s into the -Rs was supposed to have included refueling capabilities for ALL KC-135Rs, but it got expensive, so there was only about 15? -Rs that were converted to receive fuel.

ALL the tankers can hook up to a receiver and SUCK the fuel out, but it's a slow process.

Nowadays, the "new" -R model is old. The KC-135T now has no navigator and is all glass-down to just 3 crewmembers.

C U!
cliff
YIP

PS-In the R we could fly for 24 hours, or 12,000 miles. We also did lightweight pattern sorties (landing and takeoff practice) at about 115,000 lbs., with 90K thrust!


We can do that in a Hornet too of course on the boom/basket of the 135R. :)

UPS1856 08-02-2007 10:34 AM

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