Daniel Larusso

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MaxKts

I just printed out JL's email on red paper and have copies if anyone needs it for their archives

AerisArmis

Not that it matters but JL took over from John Hunt as the Contract Administrator. So......this LOA is in his job area. And....buying/selling this thing should not be the Chief Pilot's responsibility.

boxhauler

dude, stop now, you're embarrassing yourself.

Haywood JB

For what it's worth, I like Jack, but I don't envy his position. He is obviously involved in this process and has some vestid interest. I don't like the one sidedness of the email though. I think there are some real issues with this LOA, I also agree that FedEx is a for profit company. The COMPANY stands to make an exuberant amount of money from these domiciles. What's the price you ask, nothing! It's cost neutral. Do I think we deserve more or better than what is being offered, you're darn right I do. For one thing, a change to the contract to junior man, along with a bunch of undercutted offers...come on, this is FOR PROFIT! Make it worth both of our whiles. Don't give the company the option to feed the abuse it's junior pilots, and make an offer that more than the empty nesters or single folks can take advantage of.

Alpa needs to sack up, take this LOA and tell the company we deserve better. Keep informing the lemmings! I voted no, and I am doing everything I can to get others to be informed and vote.

HJB

fdxflyer

Is it legal to have the company email us during the vote with these types of implied threats?

Nothing personal against JL from me. Business for them = business for me.

By the way, where did all of these management guys get the idea that the business relationship with the union stops at the NC or MEC level?

Newsflash -- You don't have an agreement till you have a RATIFIED agreement. Kinda like if it ain't painted purple..........................

hamfisted

"The Company cannot then go back and renegotiate terms that both sides already agreed on because it sends the wrong message to the crew force, i.e., turn down the LOA and the Company will give you more." JL


I think JL is a very intelligent person HOWEVER.....this statement makes absolutely NO sense! When a Company and Union leadership negotiate and come to an initial agreement, then it becomes etched in stone??? Why bother ever taking anything to the membership for a vote then??? Am I missing something here or does Business 101 dispute everything in JL's statement?

PurpleTail

Going out on a limb here but it seems like BC and JL might not be getting that BIG BONUS they thought they were going to get when the LOA does NOT pass!!! Resorting to scare tactics is not helping the company either. They have obviously drawn a line in the sand and now are daring us to cross it.

What I can't figure out is why is the company trying to make this so hard? Why not make an attractive LOA to get senior guys in the seats? The trips and flying in Europe won't exactly be an easy assignment. Why does the company want to jeopordize the reliability of the freight? Do you want angry stressed out, pi$$ed off pilots doing the job or happy relaxed pilots making sure everything is running smooth? There is enough stress in the cockpit so why make it worse???

Still voting NO, NO, NO! This LOA can still get tweaked and everyone can still win, IMHO.

Overnitefr8

[QUOTE ]"The Company cannot then go back and renegotiate terms that both sides already agreed on because it sends the wrong message to the crew force, i.e., turn down the LOA and the Company will give you more." JL
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Well let's see. I do believe we turned down a few TA's before. Good thing we didn't get stuck with the first offers on those.

The company really wants this thing to pass. Never seen this type of selling from the company before.

angry tanker

Guys, like Jack said, it is only business. To me, the LOA is very bad business. I am voting no. If you think this LOA is good business, bad business, or no business, vote!