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Old 07-30-2007 | 02:36 PM
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You want to reduce carry over trips.....make Sunday the first day of the bid month instead of Monday. Many of the 727 carry over trips begin with Sunday deadheads. This had been talked up in the past but never caught on.

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Old 07-30-2007 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
There are several rules that make carryover an attractive option for some. Think about it: Its in the company's interest to get a few more days work at straight pay, so the rules are set up to give the c/o guys a "bonus".

Lines, secondary lines, and CIC are all processed in seniority order. A guy who puts in for a CIC trip does so because his LINE was affected by the conflict. The rules are set up to give a lineholder priority over a guy getting a secondary line or surfing open time.
I believe his main concern was that a VTO line is processed after CIC trips are awarded.
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Old 07-30-2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by machz990
I believe his main concern was that a VTO line is processed after CIC trips are awarded.
If he has any seniority in his VTO, he could have bid the reserve w/co line and then cherry-picked the cic trip. If he has no seniority, the good trip would have been eaten up by the vto guys above him.
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Old 07-30-2007 | 04:08 PM
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I would like to see an open time window. Where the trip are processed in senority order. The windows currently open when a large percent of the crew force is a way from a computer.

Agree that the CIC/VTO/Secondary line issue encourages carry over bidding. Do we want to encourage that?
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Old 07-30-2007 | 04:18 PM
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Careful we don't get into the PBS neighborhood.....which IMO is a swamp
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Old 07-30-2007 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooch121
Careful we don't get into the PBS neighborhood.....which IMO is a swamp
But that is what we have from the time the lines are released till the secondary lines are released. It is just not handled via senority.
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Old 07-30-2007 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Agree that the CIC/VTO/Secondary line issue encourages carry over bidding. Do we want to encourage that?
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Wish I had a good answer for you. Aside from building bidpacks without any carryover lines, IMO, I don't see how you can stop pilots from bidding them.
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Old 07-30-2007 | 05:22 PM
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From personal experience: I bid the 4 or 5 lines that I want, then I bid carryover lines because I know it is a chance to tweak my schedule when the window opens. Just think the CIC and Secondary lines should be handled in the same window via senority.
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Old 07-31-2007 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
A cadre of small, professional inflight security specialists to help us cope with the growing terror threat. They can ride the jumpseats on every flight and can be armed ala the FFDO program.

To allow max fuel savings and min w/b disruption, they need to have a maximum weight--I'm thinking around 135-140 pounds. They should be VERY fit for the rigorous job, and as such should probably be young...say 18-40 max. Additional duties during flight might include helping with the catering and providing fatigue reducing massage therapy during cruise flight. Also to prevent fatigue, some enroute entertainment--perhaps some exotic dancing--could help keep everyone awake and alert during those critical period arrivals.

To improve crew compatibility issues, crews will be able to swing by "security" offices to select a security officer for flight. These offices will be managed like Jumpseats---there will be a pool of security officers standing by to join crews. Although F/Os will have input, captains will maintain final authority for selection. Non-selected Security officers will remain as reserves for stand-by crews and ad-hoc pairings.

Due to the size, weight, and temperment requirements the logical source for the pool of new security officers will be SFS, VCP, any Scandanavian country, Singapore, and a few other well known hotspots for locating similar talent.

A small cadre of larger Security officers will be available for those captains who do not feel "safe" with a 135 pound or less Security officer. As our mantra is "no one left behind", a few larger security officers (over 200 pounds, six feet tall or better, etc) will be available for our female crewmembers. Duties remain the same, but these candidates will be recruited mostly from Australia or (again) Scandanavian countries.

Who says our flights cannot be safer, more secure, and more enjoyable? I think a unified crew force could certainly make a strong case. Remember--security is in everyone's best interests.
Albie, here's your Security Officer!

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Old 07-31-2007 | 01:36 AM
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How'd you scan that from your wallet?
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