Fatigued???
09-10-2007, 06:48 PM
#11
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Posts: 519
Originally Posted by USNFDX
If you have an incident, violation, or an accident. The last thing that you will be able to do is play the "fatigue card".
From the FOM
2.5 FATIGUE
It is the crewmember’s responsibility to be
properly rested for each phase of the trip.
However, if circumstances prevent this, no
FedEx crewmember should feel pres-
sured to fly when not properly rested. A
crewmember who is fatigued should imme-
diately notify Crew Scheduling if unable to
complete a trip.
Harassment from the DO or an ACP should be reported to the union.
From the FOM
2.5 FATIGUE
It is the crewmember’s responsibility to be
properly rested for each phase of the trip.
However, if circumstances prevent this, no
FedEx crewmember should feel pres-
sured to fly when not properly rested. A
crewmember who is fatigued should imme-
diately notify Crew Scheduling if unable to
complete a trip.
Harassment from the DO or an ACP should be reported to the union.
GOC/Scheduling has a job to do...MOVE THE FREIGHT! Fill the square, whatever it takes, as long as its within the FAR's. It is the crewmembers responsiblity to be as rested as possible and to assess if they are able to fly the trip. NEVER EVER be afraid if to make the call if you are fatigued.
6 months ago while hub-turning threw Subic scheduling revised my pairing due to Typoon weather. I don't mind helping the company out but this revision came after a circadium sleep cycle swap and was going to extend us to max duty time. I basically told scheduling that if they wanted us to fly the revision then my crew was going to call in fatigued once reaching KIX (short turn then flight to OAK on min rest) and to plan accordingly. Shortly thereafter scheduling rebuilt the trip to more realistic duty times and everyone was happy.
Point is...scheduling doesn't know what our bodies go through (ie. international ops, wx, mech delays, etc.) so don't be bullied and use good judgement. Keepin' the shiny side up!
09-11-2007, 06:30 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 193
Originally Posted by PurpleTail
This is a good reminder for the old timers and a lesson to be learned for the neebies!!!
GOC/Scheduling has a job to do...MOVE THE FREIGHT! Fill the square, whatever it takes, as long as its within the FAR's. It is the crewmembers responsiblity to be as rested as possible and to assess if they are able to fly the trip. NEVER EVER be afraid if to make the call if you are fatigued.
6 months ago while hub-turning threw Subic scheduling revised my pairing due to Typoon weather. I don't mind helping the company out but this revision came after a circadium sleep cycle swap and was going to extend us to max duty time. I basically told scheduling that if they wanted us to fly the revision then my crew was going to call in fatigued once reaching KIX (short turn then flight to OAK on min rest) and to plan accordingly. Shortly thereafter scheduling rebuilt the trip to more realistic duty times and everyone was happy.
Point is...scheduling doesn't know what our bodies go through (ie. international ops, wx, mech delays, etc.) so don't be bullied and use good judgement. Keepin' the shiny side up!
GOC/Scheduling has a job to do...MOVE THE FREIGHT! Fill the square, whatever it takes, as long as its within the FAR's. It is the crewmembers responsiblity to be as rested as possible and to assess if they are able to fly the trip. NEVER EVER be afraid if to make the call if you are fatigued.
6 months ago while hub-turning threw Subic scheduling revised my pairing due to Typoon weather. I don't mind helping the company out but this revision came after a circadium sleep cycle swap and was going to extend us to max duty time. I basically told scheduling that if they wanted us to fly the revision then my crew was going to call in fatigued once reaching KIX (short turn then flight to OAK on min rest) and to plan accordingly. Shortly thereafter scheduling rebuilt the trip to more realistic duty times and everyone was happy.
Point is...scheduling doesn't know what our bodies go through (ie. international ops, wx, mech delays, etc.) so don't be bullied and use good judgement. Keepin' the shiny side up!
You make an excellent point about schedulers moving the freight.
That is their job and they don't really know what is going on with our personal situations.
I am still kicking myself for not calling fatigued on a 16hr weather extended duty day. After the fact, I realized that the company doesn't have to give back the shipping costs for weather related delays so they're not out much. Why did I just allow myself to be extended into a crappy revised pairing that had me flying into an airport with gusting 25 knot crosswinds! I guess I was just filled with the "purple promise"
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09-11-2007, 07:02 AM
#13
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Posts: 4,680
Originally Posted by Piloto Noche
PurpleTail,
You make an excellent point about schedulers moving the freight.
That is their job and they don't really know what is going on with our personal situations.
I am still kicking myself for not calling fatigued on a 16hr weather extended duty day. After the fact, I realized that the company doesn't have to give back the shipping costs for weather related delays so they're not out much. Why did I just allow myself to be extended into a crappy revised pairing that had me flying into an airport with gusting 25 knot crosswinds! I guess I was just filled with the "purple promise".
You make an excellent point about schedulers moving the freight.
That is their job and they don't really know what is going on with our personal situations.
I am still kicking myself for not calling fatigued on a 16hr weather extended duty day. After the fact, I realized that the company doesn't have to give back the shipping costs for weather related delays so they're not out much. Why did I just allow myself to be extended into a crappy revised pairing that had me flying into an airport with gusting 25 knot crosswinds! I guess I was just filled with the "purple promise"
.
09-11-2007, 07:20 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 193
Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
GOC = freight, CRS = crews!
