Some guy

If I read Section 24C.5.b of the contract right, you cannot be excessed to a FDA...

b. No pilot may be assigned involuntarily to fill an FDA vacancy. If no pilot on the Master Seniority List expresses a preference by standing bid for an FDA vacancy, the Company may hire a pilot to fill that vacancy.

Furthermore in Section 24C.6.b...

b. If an excessed pilot cannot be awarded a crew position due to insufficient preferences on his standing bid, the Company shall assign him to a permanent crew position with a base in the United States with the highest pay rate to which he is entitled by his seniority.

As far as my guess on who will bid CDG 72 FO, I've only met a few folks in the "target demographic" that will (they're either single, or married with no kids, or have small kids and plan to home school). I think that since the base will be initially small they won't need many volunteers and any shortfalls can be filled by STV, or maybe new hires. Or maybe they'll just beef up the 75 MEM numbers enough to have a larger pool of STV candidates (?)

Interesting times...

Didn't vote for it and I ain't gonna bid it! SG

kronan

Huck,
thanks for pointing out the modification of your post. keeps me from looking like a [I]complete[I] idiot anyways.

But, FedEx has had the regulatory okay to fly Intra-EU for quite awhile. Thus, the Paris to Milan, Frankfurt, Etc flown as SIBA trips so don't think the holdup would be with additional open skies agreements.

Rumor has it we have committed to open up several cities next year, mostly former Warsaw pact countries, so, one way the other, time is getting short to get into the details of 757 and the FDA.

The FDA holdup could also be the legalese with the People's Republic of China.

Ever notice how countries called the People's Republic or Democratic Republic really aren't? Whatever happened to truth in advertising

groggy

Surely not me, better off in the back seat @ $70 an hour...flying crappy lines, than take a wack @ $126 hour in Europe with a family and the uncertainty of the dollar. I have yet to to talk to a bud in my class range that is remotely considering CDG. However, my scope of interviewees may be narrow.

Gunter

The guys who gave up on a better LOA had no financial incentive to do so. It simply did not affect them very much either way. Telling a fib about their vote keeps them in good standing with their felllow crewmembers.

The guys who will choose to continue serving coffee will be doing so for a higher standard of living, although lower pay, and family over the excitement of Paris.


If you mean the junior SO's are spreading misinformation to hide their true bid....Interesting...That could be true....I don't think so, but who knows

renman95

Why would a senior 727 F/O go to the schoolhouse for a European slot at no extra pay other that "int'l"?

Unless the company starts paying that pilot in gold, the exchange rate is just another showstopper.

FD&S

fdx727pilot

He wouldn't for a right seat, but maybe for a Capt seat. (As of this Nov, 4th year {senior 72 FO would be at least 4th year,} $182/hr + $9 intl + intl per diem.)

Boom Boom

Quote:

757 CDG FOs--Newhires or "Senior 727 FO's"?

As per the title of the thread, the question is 'Where will the 757 CDG FOs come from?'

Gunter

Agreed. CA slots will be easy to fill in Hong Kong and Paris. No argument there. In fact some really, really junior 727 FO's may get it. They definitely want it.

I think this thread creep highlights the pickle we find ourselves in. Everyone was highly interested in the CA's getting a little extra coin in the LOA.

Little thought was given to the Narrow FO slots.

gcsass

I thought about it a lot, but I didn't get a vote (not that it would have made a difference)!

Gunter

On a positive note--

No current FedEx pilot has to bid 757 CDG. It will not be assigned involuntarily either. I'm also being assured we cannot be excessed to a FDA if it comes to that.

So, in a way, the junior SO's and FO's HAVE been taken care of. I'm very thankful that I will not be involuntarily moved overseas.