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FreightDawgyDog 10-03-2007 10:30 AM

"Originally Posted by nightfreight
...There has been tons of guys flying extra now, but the novelty will wear out eventually...

I thought that same thing, 20 years ago."

The difference was 20 years ago they were flying for DFT and VLT. Now it's all at straight pay..

Busboy 10-03-2007 10:42 AM

If I remember right...Volunteer was actually paid at straight pay. You are correct though, much draft was flown at overtime.

On the other hand, we didn't have all these "slackers" doing their reserve on the golf course, and never flying a trip.

("slackers", courtesy of Barney)

SuperMario 10-03-2007 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 241405)
If I remember right...Volunteer was actually paid at straight pay. You are correct though, much draft was flown at overtime.

On the other hand, we didn't have all these "slackers" doing their reserve on the golf course, and never flying a trip.

("slackers", courtesy of Barney)

Well, my handicap has never been lower and my tan has never been darker! BTW, anyone have a good trip they want to give up...I'm closing in on NOQ!! :D

LeadSolo 10-03-2007 01:14 PM

Looks like some folks on this thread need an update on security briefings.

USNFDX 10-04-2007 04:32 PM

$10,000 Question?

Frozen Anc trip 2106/18 use to be a Mem trip. The RFO still is mem 3095/18.

It now pays 10CH more per pilot plus an additional 6K for the DHs.

I thought the company was trying to save money???????

:eek:

BonesF15 10-04-2007 05:24 PM

ANC could use a good deal once in a while!

USNFDX 10-04-2007 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by BonesF15 (Post 242296)
ANC could use a good deal once in a while!

I agree, but I don't think a line guy will ever see this one!

2cylinderdriver 10-05-2007 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by USNFDX (Post 242264)
$10,000 Question?

Frozen Anc trip 2106/18 use to be a Mem trip. The RFO still is mem 3095/18.

It now pays 10CH more per pilot plus an additional 6K for the DHs.

I thought the company was trying to save money???????

:eek:

I will wager this trip is reserved for some ANC Management/Flex or LCA types. It should be open for pick up and they should BUMP the crew that gets it, but this ridiculous "Frz" option is a way around it, pure and simple.

machz990 10-05-2007 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by USNFDX (Post 242264)
$10,000 Question?

Frozen Anc trip 2106/18 use to be a Mem trip. The RFO still is mem 3095/18.

It now pays 10CH more per pilot plus an additional 6K for the DHs.

I thought the company was trying to save money???????

:eek:

In the military we would call that "Fraud, Waste and Abuse". They had to add a duty day and layover in DTW to make it work for ANC. I'm sure that trip has someones name already on it.........we just can't see who it is.

AFW_MD11 10-05-2007 07:12 AM

Easy Trigger.....
 

Originally Posted by machz990 (Post 242485)
In the military we would call that "Fraud, Waste and Abuse". They had to add a duty day and layover in DTW to make it work for ANC. I'm sure that trip has someones name already on it.........we just can't see who it is.

I KNOW there's not a MEM guy on here trying to whine about the company setting up higher cost "good deals" for the ANC guys???

Everyone knows that the MEM guys get ALL the good deals - right? ;)

Case in point......check out the following extra MEM pairings for last month (Sep)

2258 on 3 Sep (HSBY) - MEM - Captain - schedule blocker (hmmmm...)

2323 on 12 Sep (HSBY) - MEM - Captain

(sorry, not smart enough to put in a link to VIPS)

Even as fat as we are on Captains in ANC and virtually NO open time, the company takes one of our standard milk runs ANC-AFW-ANC and turns it into a MEM trip with a DOUBLE DH with "HSBY" on the front/back ends.....give me a break!!

Both new MEM trips pay around 2.5 times the normal CH for the ANC-AFW-ANC trip.

Both have double DH's to the tune of $1700.00 each - plus hotel - plus extra per diem......

I'm probably the only one who noticed this since I LIVE for trips that begin/end with an AFW/DFW DH - but can NEVER get them...

So.......yeah......what IS that fraud, waste, and abuse hotline number again???

Lighten up Francis... :D


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