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10-04-2007 | 08:22 PM

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Substitution and Disputed Pairings

I just got removed from a HNL - SYD etc. 65 hour trip and put into SUB status (legality) for 12 days ( I know -- sucks to be me). Can I be SUB'd into a disputed pairing (314)? I'd take OTP, but making up 65 hours looks like it would be extremely difficult to do. Thanks

10-04-2007 | 08:44 PM

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From the SIG committee web page:

...As an important Contractual right: Disputed pairings should not be assigned to any crewmember but a Reserve pilot involuntarily...

https://crewroom.alpa.org/FDX/Deskto...cumentID=39409

Don't quote me on this...But, I think you can refuse a disputed pairing and still have trip guarantee.

Good luck.

10-04-2007 | 08:52 PM

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I sure hope so. If that's the case, this may not be too bad of a deal after all.

10-04-2007 | 09:02 PM

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I think you are screwed. I believe, but again call the union, you can be tagged with it legally. It is a big grey area and has been talked about with the union guys before. Good luck

10-05-2007 | 02:29 AM

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Unfortunately, they CAN assign you a Disputed pairing in SUB. I would agree that taking OTP to avoid a 6 hour DP is really taking one for the team. I can't imagine anyone giving you grief for flying a dispute in your situation. If it was a one day trip or even a few days of SUB I would hope guys would choose OTP rather than fly the dispute.

Just another benefit to our SUB policy !

10-05-2007 | 05:52 AM

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Hey Tony C,

What the word on this?

10-05-2007 | 08:51 AM

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Yes they can sub you with a DP. Went through this last year. Had 30 CH of SUB and the gave me a 6 CH DP the first day. Called the union on it. When you are in SUB you are essentially on Reserve.

10-05-2007 | 09:11 AM

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Yes they can sub you with a DP. Went through this last year. Had 30 CH of SUB and the gave me a 6 CH DP the first day. Called the union on it. When you are in SUB you are essentially on Reserve.

Total BULL****!

10-05-2007 | 10:27 AM

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Total BULL****!

You're right, but that is what the union contract guy said. Perhaps that is something we need to have specifically written into the contract next time.