Stewing in Their Own Juices
11-26-2007, 08:49 PM
#21
Ok, No more sleeping Dog
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: MD-11, F/O
Posts: 889
P.S. Officialy request redaction of 1 point penalty. No apology required (not your fault that some can't read and comprehend for content).
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
11-26-2007, 09:01 PM
#22
Ok, No more sleeping Dog
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: MD-11, F/O
Posts: 889
PSS.
Administrator,
Please re-post previously censured posts which were removed due to the use of the word "Idiot"
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
Administrator,
Please re-post previously censured posts which were removed due to the use of the word "Idiot"
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
11-26-2007, 10:29 PM
#23
APC co-founder
Joined APC: Feb 2005
Position: B777
Posts: 5,853
Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
P.S. Officialy request redaction of 1 point penalty. No apology required (not your fault that some can't read and comprehend for content).
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
PSS.
Administrator,
Please re-post previously censured posts which were removed due to the use of the word "Idiot"
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
Administrator,
Please re-post previously censured posts which were removed due to the use of the word "Idiot"
Respectfully,
FLMD11CAPT
Your post along with about 10 others were removed because they violate the forum Terms of Service. I've made several posts over the past year regarding the forum rules, free speech, and users lowering the bar to insults and character assassination. So I apologize, but tonight I'm just going to cut and paste one earlier posts on the subject - I think it still applies here. Also, I do stand behind the forum moderators who volunteer their time to make a APC a productive resource.
If it helps, I also issued an infraction to the thread author to remind him that that self-deprecating statements should remain rhetorical, and not used as plank to launch an insult.
I was recently called a censor for removing a post that very clearly violated the forum rules. I've been called worse, but because there may be some confusion about this resource, I wanted to take a moment to revisit the forum rules and a little background on the APC forum. As the site owner, I want to point out that Airline Pilot Central Forums is a private web site with Terms of Service (TOS) that allow us to remove any user or post for any reason. We've been through the first amendment discussion already, do a search if you need to, but this site is privately owned and your first amendment rights don't apply here.
That said, we have a history of giving users a very wide latitude to express unpopular opinions, waste bandwidth, and even have great dialog with other pilots. We don't charge a fee and we don't require you to look at ads, the owners of this site provide it as a service to the pilot community.
Other forums look to the pilot group as a revenue source, not us, we pay thousands of dollars per year out of pocket to provide pilots what we intend to be a useful resource. We're not funded by a union, airline, or anyone else - it's two pilots footing the bill on their own. We're happy to do it and we not asking for donations, all we ask is for users to observe a few simple rules.
Very simply stated, if users of this board can't abide by the terms of service they agreed to when they registered - go away (on your own or we're happy to show you the door).
As for a self-policing community, this board is what you make it. Our TOS is written to keep the forum a productive, positive, and helpful resource. When the majority of users dictate that personal attacks and low brow dialog is the norm - that'll be the day we throw the forum kill switch and walk away. Users have the ability to privately report violations to the TOS and to publicly post a rebuttal, correction, or admonition (respectfully of course) to violations of the forum rules - again the forum is what you make it.
I firmly believe that differing opinions are healthy, and sometime we might have to agree to disagree. When we disagree, I'd ask if you post here that you check the emotion, and keep it civil.
That said, we have a history of giving users a very wide latitude to express unpopular opinions, waste bandwidth, and even have great dialog with other pilots. We don't charge a fee and we don't require you to look at ads, the owners of this site provide it as a service to the pilot community.
Other forums look to the pilot group as a revenue source, not us, we pay thousands of dollars per year out of pocket to provide pilots what we intend to be a useful resource. We're not funded by a union, airline, or anyone else - it's two pilots footing the bill on their own. We're happy to do it and we not asking for donations, all we ask is for users to observe a few simple rules.
Very simply stated, if users of this board can't abide by the terms of service they agreed to when they registered - go away (on your own or we're happy to show you the door).
As for a self-policing community, this board is what you make it. Our TOS is written to keep the forum a productive, positive, and helpful resource. When the majority of users dictate that personal attacks and low brow dialog is the norm - that'll be the day we throw the forum kill switch and walk away. Users have the ability to privately report violations to the TOS and to publicly post a rebuttal, correction, or admonition (respectfully of course) to violations of the forum rules - again the forum is what you make it.
I firmly believe that differing opinions are healthy, and sometime we might have to agree to disagree. When we disagree, I'd ask if you post here that you check the emotion, and keep it civil.
Last edited by HSLD; 11-26-2007 at 11:03 PM.
