warthog

just finished Bus IOE..reference consolidation...is it 100 block hours in 120 days or 100 flight hours in 120 days (either way includes IOE)? The FOM references "line flying time" which could mean either, what with the way they write their guidance around here...I figger it has to be block time, as it seems to be the standard frame of reference, but it never hurts to ask, and I'm tired of getting the answering machines at AOC...thanks for any info!

HoursHore

Block time. And if there's an RFO it only counts 2/3 or 1/2 if there are 2. You can look at you Flight Summary to see where you stand.

BoxFlyer

Your meter starts running after the check ride in the sim, 120 days to get 100 hours. Your IOE time will count towards the 100 hrs. If you're a Capt, then it's line time only, 100 hrs. till off high mins.

Adlerdriver

Unlikely issue for most folks but you never know - just for everyone's info:
If you were already on the bus (say at AA) and you already consolidated there, you don't need to do it again. I "pressed to test" on this on the MD-11 and all they needed was my previous flight times. Bing - no consolidation required.

Jetjok

Don't know where you are on the seniority list, but if you're unlucky enough to be sitting reserve, and you are behind in your timeline for getting your hours in the required timeframe, now's your chance to pick up some really nice flying. Crew Scheduling is usually willing to allow you to bump someone off a trip so that you can fly it. The other guy gets to enjoy some paid time off, and you get the pleasure of flying a nice trip. A true win-win. It only works while you're in consolidation, during your R days.

HoursHore

nowadays they put you in Consolodation status as soon as you fall behind their timeline for a 100 hours, which puts you into super first fly, ahead of all the first flyers.

TheBaron

Who did your homework in High School?

CFR14 Part 121 Subpart O Crewmember Qualifications
121.434 Operating Experience, Operating Cycles, and Consolidation of Knowledge and Skills
(g) Except as provided in paragraph (h) of this section, pilot in command and second in command crewmembers must each acquire at least 100 hours of line operating flight time for consolidation of knowledge and skills (including operating experience required under paragraph (c) of this section(this is the initial IOE requirement)) within 120 days after the satisfactory completion of:
(1) Any part of the flight maneuvers and procedures portion of either an airline transport pilot certificate with type rating practical test or an additional type rating practical test, or
(2) A §121.441 proficiency check.



CFR 14 Part 1.1 General Definitions
Flight timemeans:
(1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing;



FedEx doesn't just make the stuff up (unless you're talking about contract interpretation.)

warthog

glad you didn't do my homework for me, Baron...

For future reference the right answer is block time, and if you read the definition of "flight time" closely (difficult for me, as a product of Alabama public schools...), the aircraft moves under its own power at block out and comes to rest after landing at block in. Confirmed with the scheduler who tracks all this in Airbus training.
Thanks for all your inputs...