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Old 01-30-2008, 06:02 AM
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The compensation package is available on the ALPA/FDX website. Go take a look. And while you are there--look around--there is some good info if you snoop through it.

I have refrained from diving into a lot of the frays but I would like to make a commercial plug here to GO TO THE FEDEX/MEC SITE SOMETIMES AND LOOK AROUND! There is some good info there...like DP lists, phone numbers for block reps, etc etc as well as some informative letters from some of the block reps. Block 1 and Block 6 guys do a good job trying to getting the word out--take a look at their pages even if you aren't in their block...you might learn something. I try to go there 2-3 times a week and look for new material, and review some of the old stuff too.

However--I am also seeing some incomplete/incorrect info being kicked around. So--from our website--here is the real info.


F. COMPENSATION AND GUIDELINES
1. The compensation and work guidelines for the MEC officers will be reviewed and amended as appropriate by the MEC. Prior to the election cycle for the officers, the MEC will make a determination for each officer position as to whether that position will be assigned to full-time or part-time duty with the Association. Any change to the duty assignment of an individual officer prior to the end of the current term will be made by the MEC in consultation with that officer.
2. MEC officers assigned to full-time duty with the Association shall be governed by the following policies.
a. Work
(1) Fifteen (15) office days are required for a 4-week month.
(2) Nineteen (19) office days are required for a 5-week month.
(3) Weekends do not count as office days unless actually worked.
(4) Union business out of the office (out of town) counts as a day for a day.
(5) AFB trips count as workdays.
(6) PDO trips do not count as workdays unless required for currency.
(7) When all three officers are on full-time duty with the Association, to the maximum extent possible, the officers will coordinate their schedules to ensure that at least two officers are scheduled to be in the FDX MEC office at all times.
(8) To earn a “work day” credit, the officer must be at the office for at least five hours of that day, or the required commute to/from his home of record exceeds five hours, or performs assigned union work while at his home of record a minimum of six hours in a day. Workdays computed under these guidelines would be limited to two (2) days in a four-week month and three (3) days in a five-week month. The assigned work at his home of record would have to be approved by the two other officers. These days would be reviewed and accounted for by the FOC in their semi-annual report.
(9) The Financial Oversight Committee (FOC) will forward to the MEC a semi-annual “look back” report covering officer travel, vacation, AFB/PDO, sick activity, MEC expenses and other issues as required.
b. Vacation
(1) FedEx Express (the Company) will deduct vacation hours from the FDX MEC’s trip removal bill.
(2) An officer, with the concurrence of the other two officers, may take his vacation when he wishes; i.e., he will not be constrained to taking it in the month awarded.
(3) A day of vacation equals one day of office work. For example, an officer has seven (7) days of vacation the first week of January. Forty-two (42) Credit Hours (CHs) will be deducted from the FDX MEC’s standard ninety-eight (98) Credit Hour (CH) bill for that officer. The FDX MEC will be billed 56 CHs for that officer. The officer may wish to take that vacation in another month. With approval of the other two officers that will be allowed. The officer will still be responsible for a full work month in January. The officer can only sell back 40 percent of his vacation, per the Contract. Also, an officer may participate in voluntary vacation cancellation only if his vacation has been awarded for that month.
(4) An officer is not permitted any more vacation days than is to be credited to the MEC from his vacation bank hours.
c. Sick
(1) Short-term sick leave utilization will be on a day-for-day basis, and will be coordinated with the other officers to be made up at a later time.
(2) Long-term sick leave/disability will be defined as “unable to perform office duty for a month or more,” and it will be handled on a case-by-case basis at the discretion of the MEC. If an officer utilizes a month or more of sick leave, FDX MEC will notify the Company, the officer’s sick leave balance will be deducted accordingly, and the FDX MEC will not be charged.
(3) If the officer is medically grounded but able to perform office duties, he will continue to be paid the standard ninety-eight (98) CH per month and be governed by the applicable work requirements.
d. Commuting
(1) A commuting officer will receive up to three round trip tickets to his home of record or to a destination of lesser cost per month. Ticket cost will be based on the Company’s approved deadhead ticket cost between cities. If no ticket cost is listed, then the cheapest fare, as determined by corporate travel, will be used. These tickets are bankable for one quarter.
(2) The FOC will include a review of all officer travel expenses in their semi-annual report to the MEC.
e. Housing
(1) Commuting officers will have first consideration for use of any FDX MEC house, condo, or apartment.
(2) If no housing is available, or if the commuting officer chooses to secure his own housing, an allowance up to, but not to exceed, eighteen hundred dollars ($1,800) per month will be provided. The commuting officer may opt for a FDX MEC provided hotel room in lieu of other housing.
(3) No relocation allowance will be provided.
f. Transportation
(1) The MEC Chairman and the other officers will have first consideration for use of any leased or owned Association vehicles. This does not mean that the MEC Chairman or other officers will have a special vehicle for his/her use.
(2) If a commuting officer chooses to use his or her own vehicle, reimbursement will be at the IRS approved cost per mile.
g. Flight Pay Loss and Override
(1) Officers will bid in a pay only status.
(2) Officers will be compensated at the rate of ninety-eight (98) CHs per month, calculated in accordance with Section 60.m. 2. b.(4) of ALPA policy, the MEC having determined that this compensation falls within the parameters of this ALPA policy. This compensation will be based on the bid status of the MEC officer.
(3) Carryover will not be considered or paid for any pay only line bid.
(4) Officers will receive an override of:
MEC Chairman
$1,500.00/month
MEC Vice Chairman
$1,350.00/month
MEC Secretary/Treasurer
$1,250.00/month
h. VLT/DRF
(1) Officers will not be eligible for VLT/DRF flying while they are serving in office. The compensation package above covers the loss of that possible income.
i. Passover
(1) Passover will be paid in accordance with the current CBA.
j. Meal Expenses
(1) Meal Expenses will not be paid to any officer while in Memphis, as this will be covered by the monthly stipend. Travel on union business outside of Memphis will be paid as approved by FDX MEC policy.
k. Incidental expenses
(1) Incidental expenses for union business will be paid via an expense report.
l. International override
(1) International override will not be paid to an FDX MEC officer by the union.
3. MEC officers assigned to part-time duty with the Association shall be governed by the following policy:
a. MEC officers to part-time duty with the Association shall be subject to and governed by the provisions as set forth in Section VII.A. of the MEC Policy Manual.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:33 AM
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HE'S tired? Of not supporting the membership's desires? Of not flying? Being home every night? Having to "negotiate" with the company?

what else can you guys come up with that he's tired of?
Tired of pretending to care what the unwashed membership thinks?
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post
The compensation package is available on the ALPA/FDX website. Go take a look. And while you are there--look around--there is some good info if you snoop through it.

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However--I am also seeing some incomplete/incorrect info being kicked around. So--from our website--here is the real info.


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Didn't see no requirement for a tie or skanky upper lip hair; what other bogus innuendos have been spread here?
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:48 AM
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Just some numbers that were slightly off or omitted.

No problem if you want to complain--just get the numbers right. On a side note--are we going to DC-10 S/O school together?
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Originally Posted by pdo bump View Post
isn't it MEC Leadership that will stop the DP flying? isn't it MEC Leadership that gets the dirt bags to stop flying 100hrs a month during negotiations? isn't it MEC Leadership that gets all of the members to stop selling back their vacation during negotiations? (etc., etc.)

i think DW needs to stick his finger in his own chest...(instead of his thumb up his bum)

just my 2 cents
Actually, and I'm no fan of DW, that would be highly illegal under the RLA. The union cannot endorse any kind of work action, real or perceived. Pilot groups have been fined in the past. We need guys who can read between the lines and quit doing this crap without their mother telling them it's hurting the cause. I know, I know...that and $3600 won will buy you a cup of coffee in Seoul.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post
Just some numbers that were slightly off or omitted.

No problem if you want to complain--just get the numbers right. On a side note--are we going to DC-10 S/O school together?
Don't know till after the next two practice bids. I hear it is not to late to bid Hong Kong.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:39 AM
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Don't know till after the next two practice bids. I hear it is not to late to bid Hong Kong.
I dunno about all that. Our Fearless Leader told me it was gonna go waaaaay senior.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HazCan View Post
Actually, and I'm no fan of DW, that would be highly illegal under the RLA. The union cannot endorse any kind of work action, real or perceived. Pilot groups have been fined in the past. We need guys who can read between the lines and quit doing this crap without their mother telling them it's hurting the cause. I know, I know...that and $3600 won will buy you a cup of coffee in Seoul.
On The Money Hazcan,


I was there last night and I got some pretty strong impressions from it. I actually felt better about several points afterward.

There was a very good explanation of the level of legal support that ALPA provides for negotiations. I was impressed with the explanation of ALPA "national's" negotiator qualifications. But, I am not sure that their capabilities are being properly taken advantage of.

The topic of outside negotiators came up. DW contrasted our current model of negotiating with that of the teamsters. I found this to be a little over the top. He went on and on about how a teamsters professional negotiating team would just show up and negotiate a compltete contract with no input from the MEC.

Someone began to make the suggestion that a combination approach might be effective and that was when DW lost his composure. He declared that he was not running for re-election(Halleluah). Then, he shared why our contract is not all we would like it to be and why it took so long to negotiate. In an overdue(my opinion) expletive filled diatribe DW basically laid out how we got where we are. He said basically that the Subic crews and the Wide body FO's deliverded the contract because they stopped flying extra and selling their vacation. He also said that our negotiating positions have been seriously affected by our DP fliers. There was significant applause in the room.

The topic of Over 60 crewmembers flying together also came up and the MEC members completely discouted the FAA's strong recommendation against it. The gist of the MEC position was that the FAA needs to make a new rule or shut up.

There was also a long debate about the Presidential election and whether ALPA should endorse political candidates.

DW reiterated that he is going to continue to vote on the exec council the way he thinks is right with limited regard to the opinion of the majority.

DW is obviously worn down by the weight of his job. He has lost the bubble. His passion came out in this meeting and I now question his motivations less now than I did before. It was good to finally to hear the official lessons learned from the negotiation of the last contract and better to hear that we will have a new union president. When is his seat up for vote?

Anyone else who was there, please feel free to expound upon their personal impressions of the meeting.
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He mentioned that John McCain wants to abolish the railway labor act so that organized labor can't bargain/negotiate with the companies they work for.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:59 PM
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I showed up very late, during DW's expletive filled diatribe. It does sound like we have the best professional negotiators possible. He emphatically explained that it doesn't matter who we have at the table if we keep having guys fly DP's, sell back vacation, fly overtime etc during contract negotiations. It wasn't until the Subic goes and W/B F/O's starting holding the line that the company started getting worried about the contract.

Someone asked if we (FDX ALPA) should endorse a candidate for Pres this year, given the animosity withing the union right now. DW explained that he understands 75% of us consider ourselves republicans or conservatives. But the union as an entity must support someone who goes along with labor beliefs. Very few people are one issue voters. But the union leadership (representing the union as a group) must throw it's support towards labor friendly candidates. If they didn't, and someone was voted in that would dismantle the RLA and our rights to negotiate, people would later complain why didn't the leadership do something before the election.
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