CactusCrew

Salty Dog is correct.

It has been like that every where I have been ... FWIW.

The 2 keys to contract compliance is a well educated pilot group and transparency in the daily operations of scheduling.

How many of those do we have ?

Freightpuppy

Ya, this is pointless since they will NEVER, at any airline, do you a favor even if you just did one for them five seconds ago. Learned my lesson with this one a loooong time ago.

Freightpuppy

Was that after you slept in the plane on standups for a few months or before? LOL! That place sounds pathetic.

Down with JO....what a scumbag.

Freightpuppy

I think you can still put in to pick it up but they don't have to give it to you if they have enough reserves. Right or wrong?

Freightpuppy

The way I look at this is that it doesn't matter. Even if you tell them they are wrong, they tell you you are wrong and the union tells you to "fly then grieve". Useless even if you know the contract IMHO. The fly and grieve thing is ridiculous.

SaltyDog

Freightpuppy,
Union follows the law that says if it is a dispute on intepretation then the employee must fly and grieve. It is incumbent to know the contract and the Meaning and Intent (M&I) tell scheduling that some of there fluff IS a known contract violation. We are not obligated nor legally required to fly a known contract violation. Takes work to defend a contract.

Problem: Most of us get put in a spot that we just aren't absolutely, positively sure.... so we go. (guilty) Scheduling smiles behind the phone and knows most of us won't even follow through with the grievance. I have seen crews stand up to known contract violations and scheduling backs down with a "oh, your right, my mistake" others, myself included, took the assignment and kicked myself later. Now I have contested legality of assignments when they seem dubious. That is often how you find the loopholes in the contract (good education by company and union (often a big <ng>).
Yet have gotten the "oh, my mistake"

767pilot

It can if they allow it....you have to ask (it says MAY be awarded...)

de727ups

Yeah, I agree. I don't think that would happen too often unless they were tight on reserves.

CheyDogFlies

I have only answered the UPS phone call three times.
1. Driving through Canada and just wanted to rub in how there was no chance I could do it.
2. Day before reserve started, and I thought they would JA me for something and I could get paid 150% of nothing (I'm on probation).
3. Break day on reserve, and I thought maybe I had screwed up what day my break was on (again, on probation).

L'il J.Seinfeld

For the most part, I think the rank and file scheduler is a decent enough person just trying to get the slots filled and keep the higherups off of their respecitve backs. The real SOB's are the scheduling supervisers who are often times unscrupulous, dishonest, and can be nasty. These are the folks that cause crewmembers to roll their eyes when Big Brown talks about integrity. This is my only airline and I have only flown 300 hours in nearly 3 years while on reserve so my experience is limited. FWIW.