FDX- Read Between the Lines!
03-14-2008 | 04:08 PM
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From: MD-11 F/O
FDX- Read Between the Lines!
From a recent MEC message line:
Operational Extension and the Administration of a Fatigue Call:
Pursuant to Section 12.C.5.b., given extenuating circumstances a pilot may be extended beyond operational limitations, but if a pilot becomes excessively tired he is to call (1) CRS and (2) the Duty Officer. The Duty Officer has two alternatives, and these are listed under 12.C.5.b.ii.(a) & (b).
These alternatives are: The pilot can be scheduled for an alternative duty that falls within operational limits or, be released into a legal rest period. If the pilot requires additional rest, in addition to the rest period already provided, the pilot will be removed from the remainder of his trip and be placed into sick leave.
What is important is that a sick bank deduction for fatigue, when scheduled beyond operational limits, can only be made if it is deemed that additional rest is required.
Operational Extension and the Administration of a Fatigue Call:
Pursuant to Section 12.C.5.b., given extenuating circumstances a pilot may be extended beyond operational limitations, but if a pilot becomes excessively tired he is to call (1) CRS and (2) the Duty Officer. The Duty Officer has two alternatives, and these are listed under 12.C.5.b.ii.(a) & (b).
These alternatives are: The pilot can be scheduled for an alternative duty that falls within operational limits or, be released into a legal rest period. If the pilot requires additional rest, in addition to the rest period already provided, the pilot will be removed from the remainder of his trip and be placed into sick leave.
What is important is that a sick bank deduction for fatigue, when scheduled beyond operational limits, can only be made if it is deemed that additional rest is required.
03-14-2008 | 04:49 PM
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Knowing the rules will make everyone feel comfortable enough to make the call if and when it is required in the interest of safety. I think that is in the best interest of both the company and pilot.
Read between the lines? Don't have to. Everyone should know it is wrong to fly fatigued.
Safety needs to be our highest priority to ensure the company continues to profit and thrive.
Read between the lines? Don't have to. Everyone should know it is wrong to fly fatigued.
Safety needs to be our highest priority to ensure the company continues to profit and thrive.
03-15-2008 | 05:00 AM
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In a week of AM hub-turn trips I feel fatigued from showtime on the first night until I sleep in my own bed on the first full day off at home. The 1-2 hours of broken sleep I 'might' get at the hub coupled with the 4-5 hours of daylight sleep at the hotel just don't cut it. By Thursday night my decision making is much slower and I definitely make more mistakes. The worst part is that by Thursday I no longer care. All I want to do is power through it and go home as fast as possible. There is nothing safer than 3 caffeine powered egos trying to bend the jet home as quickly as physics will allow!
Safety will never be the first priority at a company whose charter is to maximize shareholder wealth.
03-15-2008 | 08:01 AM
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From: "Part of the problem." : JL
It's all right here, in a FEDEX approved jepp sized insert...
Being awake 17 hours is the same as being drunk, so no, I don't have a problem with Fatigue Calls...
http://rapidshare.com/files/66864937/SCAN0003.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/66864766/SCAN0002.JPG
Save, print, and reference in the event you are ever questioned.
It says FedEx at the bottom, so no problem
(on a side note, no big surprise they are NOT giving these inserts out anymore in recurrent classes....)
Being awake 17 hours is the same as being drunk, so no, I don't have a problem with Fatigue Calls...
http://rapidshare.com/files/66864937/SCAN0003.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/66864766/SCAN0002.JPG
Save, print, and reference in the event you are ever questioned.
It says FedEx at the bottom, so no problem
(on a side note, no big surprise they are NOT giving these inserts out anymore in recurrent classes....)
03-15-2008 | 09:33 AM
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From: 767 FO
Right on! Finally someone tells the truth.
In a week of AM hub-turn trips I feel fatigued from showtime on the first night until I sleep in my own bed on the first full day off at home. The 1-2 hours of broken sleep I 'might' get at the hub coupled with the 4-5 hours of daylight sleep at the hotel just don't cut it. By Thursday night my decision making is much slower and I definitely make more mistakes. The worst part is that by Thursday I no longer care. All I want to do is power through it and go home as fast as possible. There is nothing safer than 3 caffeine powered egos trying to bend the jet home as quickly as physics will allow!
Safety will never be the first priority at a company whose charter is to maximize shareholder wealth.
In a week of AM hub-turn trips I feel fatigued from showtime on the first night until I sleep in my own bed on the first full day off at home. The 1-2 hours of broken sleep I 'might' get at the hub coupled with the 4-5 hours of daylight sleep at the hotel just don't cut it. By Thursday night my decision making is much slower and I definitely make more mistakes. The worst part is that by Thursday I no longer care. All I want to do is power through it and go home as fast as possible. There is nothing safer than 3 caffeine powered egos trying to bend the jet home as quickly as physics will allow!
Safety will never be the first priority at a company whose charter is to maximize shareholder wealth.
Minimizing shareholder wealth is not a good business model. Econ 101
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