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Old 05-01-2008 | 04:58 AM
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Yeah, a R24 guy for planned activity, and "house standby" for more pressing needs....
Old 05-01-2008 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver
Even Rauol needs some time off, he may have to call in a reserve to cover that length of time at work !
Is that amount of time off considered disputed by the OTHER pool boys? Or, is Rauol a selfish capitalist that has no regard for the other pool boys? Does Rauol care about his QOL (and the other pool boys QOL) enough to think about somebody else than himself? Is Rauol a calender blocker?

Make sure that it does indeed get assigned to a reserve. It would be a shame to see a good pool boy get tagged as a DP violator when the poor guy really had no say.

Better call the pool boy SIG.
Old 05-01-2008 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 11jetphlyer
22 open time trips for the month of May for MEM MD11 Captains.

I had mostly JFK trips in April.

I asked about the lonely MD10 there in gate 1. The van driver said that was one of 16 parked in the system. There are two MD11s in the desert, too.

"We're not in a recession." George W...
While it sucks that we have jets parked, and we are certainly in an economic slow down of some magnitude, but we are technically NOT in a recession.


Recession is not some arbitrary term used to say the economy sucks, it is determined by specific criteria, negative GDP in two successive quarters. The last 2 quarters, while small, have shown growth,.5% and .6% successively.

Now back to your regularly scheduled passing on of info from the van driver!
Old 05-01-2008 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver
Check out MEM MD11 FO secondary line 5012, without getting out the calculator, 4 days off, and about 160 CH in the month of May ! That certainly does not help the amount of "pickins"
Technically his May line is worth 78+30 with 12+24 into JUN. He has carry over of 60+ from APR into May. The effect is the same, but he does not have a 160 credit hour secondary line. His BLG for May however, is something like 139+CH - basically 1 less FO needed for May!
Old 05-01-2008 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bifff15
NF,
I agree completely. The thing that kills me is how some blame everything or anything bad in their life on who is president (Republican specifically).
An example would be fuel prices. There is no shortage, however the price has gone up. Guess what, Exxon and all the rest are making record profits. Speculation is really what's driving up the price. We will eventually end up paying what the rest of the world does.
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I agree completely. How long has the new Congress been running things now? People are quick to point to POTUS, but that crowd seems to never want to admit the fact that the Dems are in control. Personally, I've noticed larger spikes in gas prices after the elections.
Old 05-01-2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
Technically his May line is worth 78+30 with 12+24 into JUN. He has carry over of 60+ from APR into May. The effect is the same, but he does not have a 160 credit hour secondary line. His BLG for May however, is something like 139+CH - basically 1 less FO needed for May!
And this is why there needs to be some cap put on carryover. Guys want to fly some extra, fine. But flying two whole months of trips in one does, as you point out, eliminate the need for one more pilot.
Old 05-01-2008 | 07:39 AM
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As a voice from the other side of the argument--if we NEVER had carryover, and we went to BLG or BLG + minimial make up, we might have more guys hired.

And the first time things hiccuped, like now...we'd have some furloughs.

A lot of people choose FedEx because of the stability...ditto SWA. Both have not furloughed (at least for a long time). Both, however, allow greedy capitalists to work extra. Pick your poison.

I say let the dogs work. That will stop if F-lo becomes a threat, but right now it isn't, and everyone has a job.

Anyone who has read my posts knows I like CONTROL. I don't want my union, or anyone else, telling me what I can or cannot do on days off. I have over 1000 hours of makeup, so I'm not one of the guys like this guy you mentioned. But I also think we sometimes want to adopt the models that other airlines use, but if you look around you'll see a lot of the other airlines are on their butts and a lot of pilots at our company came here from legacy carriers that had "better rules" on that kind of stuff. Ask them which system they think would be most beneficial. Our system allows pilots to make money in good times and allows the company to control costs. The net result is we have fewer pilots, but the pilots here make more money and have less threats to their long term job security. I like the trade off. I trust the principals of economics.

The argument some would say is "well...in good times...a limit would mean all extra would be at VLT/DRF rates..." And maybe it would. But in bad times is would mean guys on the street. Are you ready to share $500, $1000, or $1500 a month off your paycheck to pass downhill to the guys on the street with a furlough stipend? I seriously doubt that would work. But so far, our system has worked, and guys have not starved here, and we've kept our guys off the streets. I don't like the government deciding what's best for me on most issues, and I don't want my union doing the same thing with a cap and bank. I am not a socialist--I'm an individualist. There are times we gain more by collective working together, but I also think we need to be careful to allow the individual as much freedom as possible too. I came to the airlines thinking I would like the money, but it turns out the flexibility was the most valuable part of this career. I stand against anything (including a PBS system) that damages that flexbility.
Old 05-01-2008 | 08:05 AM
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Very true. If you have makeup by all means go for it. Don't fly DP's but knock yourself out. When it dries up be ready for some lean times!
Old 05-01-2008 | 09:12 AM
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As a guy that sits Reserve pick up as much as you like. I'm with Albie also. Now if they were to furlough that is different. But we are hiring to fill HKG, right?
Old 05-01-2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
As a voice from the other side of the argument--if we NEVER had carryover, and we went to BLG or BLG + minimial make up, we might have more guys hired.

And the first time things hiccuped, like now...we'd have some furloughs.

A lot of people choose FedEx because of the stability...ditto SWA. Both have not furloughed (at least for a long time). Both, however, allow greedy capitalists to work extra. Pick your poison.

I say let the dogs work. That will stop if F-lo becomes a threat, but right now it isn't, and everyone has a job.

Anyone who has read my posts knows I like CONTROL. I don't want my union, or anyone else, telling me what I can or cannot do on days off. I have over 1000 hours of makeup, so I'm not one of the guys like this guy you mentioned. But I also think we sometimes want to adopt the models that other airlines use, but if you look around you'll see a lot of the other airlines are on their butts and a lot of pilots at our company came here from legacy carriers that had "better rules" on that kind of stuff. Ask them which system they think would be most beneficial. Our system allows pilots to make money in good times and allows the company to control costs. The net result is we have fewer pilots, but the pilots here make more money and have less threats to their long term job security. I like the trade off. I trust the principals of economics.

The argument some would say is "well...in good times...a limit would mean all extra would be at VLT/DRF rates..." And maybe it would. But in bad times is would mean guys on the street. Are you ready to share $500, $1000, or $1500 a month off your paycheck to pass downhill to the guys on the street with a furlough stipend? I seriously doubt that would work. But so far, our system has worked, and guys have not starved here, and we've kept our guys off the streets. I don't like the government deciding what's best for me on most issues, and I don't want my union doing the same thing with a cap and bank. I am not a socialist--I'm an individualist. There are times we gain more by collective working together, but I also think we need to be careful to allow the individual as much freedom as possible too. I came to the airlines thinking I would like the money, but it turns out the flexibility was the most valuable part of this career. I stand against anything (including a PBS system) that damages that flexbility.
Usually agree with you Albie, but can't this time. We have plenty of guys enjoying reserve without flying much. I don't mind a little carryover but spread the wealth out. There's not much OT to pick up. We need a cap to carryove and makeup. Many guys want to fly for extra cash but the opportunities aren't there.
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