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Albief15 06-04-2008 03:47 PM

LOA I was part of why I ran for block rep. LOA II was simply the memorializing of the the FCIFs.

I was against the first LOA. I am voting for LOA II. Why? It helps the dudes who are going there, and it firms up those enhancements so they cannot be taken away at a whim. If the crew force wanted it previously, why NOT offer the improvements up to them as well?

You got a vote...do as you see fit. This one didn't cost us anything. It is hard for me to gather much indignation about LOA II when the weaker LOA I was voted for by 68% of the crew force. I am hearing a lot of spears thrown at Fred about LOA II. Dudes...the LOA is the reason Fred and I are here... If you think there is a lot of leverage to garner improvements, however, after you just signed off on the previous LOA by that kind of margin I think you are mistaken.

The excess bid, not the LOA, will probably be the main factor in more guys going to HKG voluntarily. I'm for anything that helps them out at all. This LOA II helps...a little. I'm not here to sell it to you however--make your own choices.

AL E NEWMAN 06-04-2008 03:52 PM

Your mustache is showing..IOW, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and bid it.

Logs 06-04-2008 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by AL E NEWMAN (Post 397185)
Your mustache is showing..IOW, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and bid it.

Read Albie's previous posts before you start throwing spears. A little education goes a long way toward mitigating a little ignorance.

AL E NEWMAN 06-04-2008 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Logs (Post 397190)
Read Albie's previous posts before you start throwing spears. A little education goes a long way toward mitigating a little ignorance.

You must be a 68%er, and now he sounds like one

jagplt 06-04-2008 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by AL E NEWMAN (Post 397193)
You must be a 68%er, and now he sounds like one

gotta love board newbie's trying to make friends quickly...

Albie's good people... tread lightly. why don't you go to one of his lunches and bring up your concerns there.

Fedex999999 06-04-2008 04:09 PM

Board Newbie? I doubt it. Try Name Changer.

FR8Hauler 06-04-2008 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 397182)
LOA I was part of why I ran for block rep. LOA II was simply the memorializing of the the FCIFs.

I was against the first LOA. I am voting for LOA II. Why? It helps the dudes who are going there, and it firms up those enhancements so they cannot be taken away at a whim. If the crew force wanted it previously, why NOT offer the improvements up to them as well?

You got a vote...do as you see fit. This one didn't cost us anything. It is hard for me to gather much indignation about LOA II when the weaker LOA I was voted for by 68% of the crew force. I am hearing a lot of spears thrown at Fred about LOA II. Dudes...the LOA is the reason Fred and I are here... If you think there is a lot of leverage to garner improvements, however, after you just signed off on the previous LOA by that kind of margin I think you are mistaken.

Roger that. DW's big sales pitch to the crew force that "would not be affected by it" killed us. Of course we vote yes on this, but the whole thing is a joke.
The excess bid, not the LOA, will probably be the main factor in more guys going to HKG voluntarily. I'm for anything that helps them out at all. This LOA II helps...a little. I'm not here to sell it to you however--make your own choices.

Roger that. DW's big sales pitch to the crew force that "would not be affected by it" killed us. Of course we vote yes on this, but the whole thing is a joke.

MaydayMark 06-04-2008 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Logs (Post 397190)
Read Albie's previous posts before you start throwing spears. A little education goes a long way toward mitigating a little ignorance.


I agree ... Albie's our APC block rep. So far ... he's turned out to be a pretty good sh*t. If you question his motivation, please email or call or meet him for lunch. He seems to be a straight shooter and a good rep.

Thanks Albie ...


Mark

NotsoFast 06-04-2008 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 397182)
LOA I was part of why I ran for block rep. LOA II was simply the memorializing of the the FCIFs.

I was against the first LOA. I am voting for LOA II. Why? It helps the dudes who are going there, and it firms up those enhancements so they cannot be taken away at a whim. If the crew force wanted it previously, why NOT offer the improvements up to them as well?

You got a vote...do as you see fit. This one didn't cost us anything. It is hard for me to gather much indignation about LOA II when the weaker LOA I was voted for by 68% of the crew force. I am hearing a lot of spears thrown at Fred about LOA II. Dudes...the LOA is the reason Fred and I are here... If you think there is a lot of leverage to garner improvements, however, after you just signed off on the previous LOA by that kind of margin I think you are mistaken.

The excess bid, not the LOA, will probably be the main factor in more guys going to HKG voluntarily. I'm for anything that helps them out at all. This LOA II helps...a little. I'm not here to sell it to you however--make your own choices.

Any thoughts on what they are going to do with all the passover pay generated by a bad LOA (low seniority) and the current excesses happening? Right now I am beginning to think some of these junior guys getting HKG capt must have had a good crystal ball.

FedExBusBoy 06-04-2008 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by AL E NEWMAN (Post 397185)
Your mustache is showing..IOW, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and bid it.

I think he did have his bid in for it at one point.........


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