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Old 06-05-2008 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by trashhauler
Hey Boy, last I checked we still live in a free country. I don't remember signing away my 1st amendment rights when I was hired at Fedex. Mngmnt can look all they want, they can't ban you from saying what you want to say in a public forum, unless of course you are giving away highly secret , sensitive company info. Everybody needs to lighten up. These are hard times, but in this business it's cyclical.
I know for a fact that at least one Captain on THIS forum has been called in and counseled for the comments he posted here (actually he was called in about something else, and copies of all the stuff he had posted here and other public forums was in his personnel file which led to another conversation). Doubt it? PM me for details ...

I wonder what type of management the MBA classes call that? It almost makes you think they're paranoid?

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Old 06-05-2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
I know for a fact that at least one Captain on THIS forum has been called in and counseled for the comments he posted here (actually he was called in about something else, and copies of all the stuff he had posted here and other public forums was in his personnel file which led to another conversation). Doubt it? PM me for details ...

I wonder what type of management the MBA classes call that? It almost makes you think they're paranoid?

Mark
American tried to fire a Captain (or at least brought a civil lawsuit against him) for harassment in the workplace over something derogatory he posted about another pilot on their union's INTERNAL web forum.

union lawyers tried to claim the "union hall" exemption to the "workplace", but I think the guy still ended up losing his case...(can't remember if he got fired and didn't get his job back, or just got sued and lost??)

point is.....you're not paranoid if they're really out to get you...

and no internet web forum (public or private) is free from scrutiny or even punishment......choose your written words wisely no matter where you write them.
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Old 06-05-2008 | 10:33 AM
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Just went over to the "ALPA" board. Not much there, sort of looks like Albie's private board (which could be good actually). I'm a bit confused why anybody would think the ALPA board is a "safer" place to gripe. I assume the ALPA flight managers have access to that board also?
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Old 06-05-2008 | 10:39 AM
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In my years at Cactus and even since I have been gone, I know for a fact that management read the ALPA boards AND were successful with disciplinary action against a few of the more vocal participants.

But they did have a very weak union and docile MEC over there ...

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Old 06-05-2008 | 11:05 AM
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ALPA boards just keep dirty laundry in the back yard...not out in the street for everyone. Its just another resource...with standard limits and disclaimers...
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Old 06-05-2008 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
ALPA boards just keep dirty laundry in the back yard...not out in the street for everyone. Its just another resource...with standard limits and disclaimers...
only on the ALPA boards there's no anonymity.

that is why 99% of the posters on this web site will never post/discuss there.

too bad though, because it would be a better place to air the laundry so that the discussion group is limited to those of us suffering through all this together.

on the other hand, APC lurkers can be more informed of what it's "really like" to be a pilot at FedEx (union/company relations, etc.) if they might be interested (someday) in coming to work here.

both forums have their pluses and minuses.
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Old 06-05-2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
only on the ALPA boards there's no anonymity.
There's none here either. It's just an illusion, which can cause some to post things they shouldn't under that false sense of security.
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Old 06-05-2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MX727
There's none here either. It's just an illusion, which can cause some to post things they shouldn't under that false sense of security.

In that case I take most of it back.

P.S. I always liked JLs E Mails.
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Old 06-05-2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
And another good thing about our board is we don't have to put up with UPS vermin....
Considering this board was started by "UPS vermin", I'm sure you'll be happier with your own board.
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Old 06-05-2008 | 04:56 PM
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Go easy. Albie can answer for himself, BUT I am sure he wasn't throwing rocks. Most of us have friends at Brown and visa versa. I have some great friends there. Breathe deep.
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