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Old 06-18-2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by skypine27
I have an ex ATA bud from Puerto Rico, George, who went to Gemini after we were furloughed. Last I heard he was living in San Juan.

Would this cut have hit him?

Thanks for any info and sorry guys. Anyone want a bite out of my sandwich? Its huge and we all know what its made of...
After the furlough, the junior F/O on the MD-11 was hired just over a year ago.

I'll pass on the sandwich...
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Old 06-19-2008 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
This is BS. The DC-10's at Omni and World are in high demand by the AMC.
The pax -10's are in high demand, especially wiht the demise of ATA, but the freighters aren't doing all that much I don't think.
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Old 06-19-2008 | 02:08 PM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...WZBE&refer=law

looks like we are being auctioned off on Aug 11th.......
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Old 06-19-2008 | 02:52 PM
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The reasons given in the above posted email from gemini are complete bunk. The guys moving the machines are doing what they can, if GAC is losing money now it is clearly the fault of the mgt team in place. All of us in the ACMI business have a portion of the fuel costs absorbed by the customer. to blame shortfalls on fuel clearly is an admission of guilt by management to appropriate funds properly.

Good luck guys,
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PS: As a competitor, I hope you folks come through, some of our folks hope for your demise so that we may get your airframes, the vast majority of us do NOT share that feeling. Cheers.
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Old 06-19-2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
Maybe UPS can buy some MD-11s on the cheap since we will be needing the lift.
You know, FBC, you were doing good since your last banishment. But here you go again, rubbing it in to those that are going through hardship. You really are a tool.
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Old 06-19-2008 | 04:19 PM
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You sound like a great guy to fly with...
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Old 06-19-2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
What am I rubbing in. They are being auctioned off, going out of business. It sucks but it's reality. Reality also is that UPS will be needing additional lift and 4 MD-11s will on the market, probably for a cheap price. Excuse me for not bleeding my heart out online for my "brother" pilots. There is no brotherhood. It's a dog eat dog world and I hope that UPS continues it's ravenous appetite.

It's called compassion. Get some. Karma is a b-tch, and hopefully it won't come back to bite you.
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Old 06-19-2008 | 06:22 PM
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FBC,
UPS reminds management that they are one bad sort away from a loss of business that can spiral to bankruptcy. As a line pilot, I realize that I have no input any different that my fellow aviators at Astar/ABX/Gemini/etc. They work as hard as we do to provide good service to the customer who pays our wage. We are just lucky, we are line pilots who are no different than the unfortunate ones except being lucky enough at the right time to get hired at UPS. Many of these folks have had apps in with UPS for along time. They are no different than you and me. Yeah, glad UPS is doing well, but we are no different as simple employees and both really just lucky that were called and didn't Screw the pooch at the interview. See ya on the line.
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Old 06-19-2008 | 07:30 PM
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All of us in the ACMI business have a portion of the fuel costs absorbed by the customer.
True to a point...after that point, the customer can't absorb the costs and finds other means. Container ships and railroads are booming at the moment.

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Old 06-19-2008 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Slight detour here, For the Gemini guys, are Chris M and Chris H still there? I used to work there as the Training planner til I got laid off back in 11/05. Sorry to hear the bad news. Had a good time working there, the people were great.
yes they are..

to Salty, 1800 and Worldguy thanks....
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