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Trash Hauler 1 07-07-2008 05:43 AM

IPNN says....
 

Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 420017)
I may be off here, but I thought that it was 12 months (see Menlo) and that was only in the event of merger, acquisition, or purchase. For the 24 I saw mentioned I think that they are going to have to come to us for some help (read: midterm negotiation)

The union already granted them the 24 months, according to IPNN a week or so ago. I believe the 12 months is only a hard number when we buy an airline. IMBW. We won't see any real change from this deal. Just heavier loads domestically.

TH1

767pilot 07-07-2008 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1 (Post 420030)
The union already granted them the 24 months, according to IPNN a week or so ago.
TH1

I remember the company asking for 24 months, but I can't believe that in this climate of them trampling the contract at will, we would have given it to them without anything in return. Stay tuned on this one (I hope)

viktorbravo 07-07-2008 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1 (Post 420030)
The union already granted them the 24 months, according to IPNN a week or so ago. I believe the 12 months is only a hard number when we buy an airline. IMBW. We won't see any real change from this deal. Just heavier loads domestically.

TH1

I with you dude, maybe hang on to the 8's a little longer and that could be about it.

Trash Hauler 1 07-07-2008 06:09 AM

May 28 IPNN
 

Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 420031)
I remember the company asking for 24 months, but I can't believe that in this climate of them trampling the contract at will, we would have given it to them without anything in return. Stay tuned on this one (I hope)

Although it doesn't actually come out and say it, the article sorta just accepts that it will take 24 months. See below.

TH1

“Second, because of the magnitude of the volume increase, a transition plan of approximately two years will be necessary. This will entail the reactivation of retired brown tail DC-8s, subject to FAA approval, along with a combination of wet leasing, dry leasing, and new aircraft acquisitions. At the end of this transition period, all of the flying would permanently become ours. We will see and review the transition plan to ensure that it complies with existing scope clause parameters,” explained Miller

767pilot 07-07-2008 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1 (Post 420043)
We will see and review the transition plan to ensure that it complies with existing scope clause parameters,” explained Miller

One would hope:confused:

Swedish Blender 07-07-2008 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1 (Post 419907)
You are correct sir! Also, the company has 24 months AFTER the deal is signed. Nothing prevents the company from outsourcing all this volume for 23months all the while figuring out how to minimize the air volume. Especially in these days of huge fuel costs. Do not forget that UPS is in the top 5 companies in number of railcars owned. Right now, we have a lot of volume that is not "air" that moves by air. This company excels at cost analysis. They'll figure out a way to keep the vast majority of this volume away from the IPA. If we get 20 DC8 equivalents out of this "mega" deal, I'll be amazed. Kinda a glum outlook, but to them its just bidness.

TH1

I've heard it will be peak volume every night with the DHL deal. We all know how many contractors we see that time of year so if this goes through, our additional flying will probably be somewhere in the middle.

Rottweiler 07-07-2008 07:05 AM

Depends.....
 

Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 420021)
I was in the training center last week and I saw them stocking the vending machines with Depends!


Question: What does the cockpit smell like after two 60+ year olds get done flying it? Depends....


That is the funniest post ever!

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 07-07-2008 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 420068)
... We all know how many contractors we see that time of year so if this goes through...

Who knows, we might even contract it out to... Astar and ABX? :rolleyes:

FlyAstarJets 07-07-2008 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE (Post 420192)
Who knows, we might even contract it out to... Astar and ABX? :rolleyes:

Ain't that just rich. Contract our flying to us that has been contracted out to you. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 07-07-2008 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets (Post 420330)
Ain't that just rich. Contract our flying to us that has been contracted out to you. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I was just speculating that's all. Most UPS pilots were and still are just as surprised as the DHL pilots over this ordeal, If anything we were expecting Fedex to do it - not us.

I simply speculated on how UPS may transition this flying from DHL... Many of us think that it'll be contracted out for quite some time, that's why I mentioned Astar and ABX... It'd be very ironic and in a way cruel but no one really knows how it'll all play out.

My apologies to any Astar/ABX employee if my speculation upset you - that was not my intention...


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