No he's not. These protesters, while slamming UPS this week will be the same ones that will be kissing up to UPS when we start to hire. Hypocrites are what they are.

Seconded........

No, the Astar group needs to do the above.

Hardly. No matter how many Brown ends up hiring, there are 1100 pilots that are going to be out of work. In this economy, most likely for good. Your hiring numbers will be far, far less than that. If it were you instead of us, you'd be picketing, and trying everything you could to throw a wrench in this deal. To imply you wouldn't is to be lying to yourself. Like many of you have said all along, "it's companies making these decisions, not the pilots". So, what do you care if we picket or not? The answer is you shouldn't. We're picketing the company, not the pilots.

Actaully, I would not picket UPS because I would just be waisting my time. I say that because I know UPS. I know they don't care. For the most part, Atlanta could care less about their own labor groups. What makes you think they care about yours? I wish you the best of luck, but as someone ealier said, they will probably videotape and identify everyone who is there. That's UPS for ya.

Lets just say that you guys are successful in derailing this deal. Now what? Do you really expect DHL to come to you and ABX and say Ok, lets forget what happened the last few months and go on like nothing happened? The fact is that DHL is losing BILLIONS doing business the way they currently are. They MUST change. No government, civic group or labor group can FORCE a company to stay in business to LOSE BILLIONS just to keep people employed, otherwise it would be a government public works project.

If you guys succeed in your endeavor what do you think DHL will do?

FBC, at this point, I really don't give a flip what they do. I certainly don't intend to go quietly into the good night though. I would speculate that the majority of the Astar/ABX guys feel the same way. We know what the current state of hiring is in this industry. Most of us are looking at it as our last hurrah. I don't think anybody gives a rip if UPS ID's us or not. ;)

"Talk about your all-time backfires."
- Happy Gilmore


I wouldn't be caught dead in that picket if I were an Astar pilot about to be looking for a job, especially since UPS will be hiring very soon.

IF the DHL-UPS deal is derailed (due to anti-trust concerns or for any other reason) AND DHL wants to maintain a presence in the United States (which they have said is essential) they may have to rethink shutting down the operation at ILN. Sure, it's a longshot, but for the (estimated) 6-10,000 folks looking at losing their careers, even a longshot beats just lying down and waiting for the bulldozer to roll over them. All the actions being taken by the various groups may be an exercise in futility, and I'm sure UPS management could give a rat's ass what anybody (including IPA) thinks about anything, but some folks think a bright light needs to be shined on this transaction.

Then they should take the fight to DHL. Not UPS.