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Neosporin 04-14-2021 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 3221510)
I’ve heard conflicting reports, do you guys have your ETOPS certification?

yes, it is officially approved, there may be paperwork sitting in OKC, but for the most part trials, flights and most are completed and approved. training is ongoing.

Projection is that we will fly our own routes to the West Coast on June 1, (two planes and NAC crews).
May 9th or so we will fly one of the two West Coast schedules.

We'll hire, IMO, we are short crews, will be more so then, considering an IRO position and layovers.

good luck!

wjcandee 04-15-2021 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 3221664)
yes, it is officially approved, [...] we are short crews, will be more so then, considering an IRO position and layovers.

Congratulations! Finally...ETOPS!

Does ATI use an IRO on the LAX-HNL "Aloha Cargo" segment? I didn't think United did on their passenger flights. Or did I misunderstand your meaning?

NeverHome 04-15-2021 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 3221876)
Congratulations! Finally...ETOPS!

Does ATI use an IRO on the LAX-HNL "Aloha Cargo" segment? I didn't think United did on their passenger flights. Or did I misunderstand your meaning?

ATI does not use an IRO on the aloha run. It’s only about 5-6 hours out of LAX. ATI does a one and done with a decent layover on each end. I’m curious if NAC will do it out of anchorage. Then maybe (not sure how realistically long that would be).

akfrtdwg 57 04-15-2021 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 3221890)
ATI does not use an IRO on the aloha run. It’s only about 5-6 hours out of LAX. ATI does a one and done with a decent layover on each end. I’m curious if NAC will do it out of anchorage. Then maybe (not sure how realistically long that would be).

ANC-HNL is about 6 hrs in 73. But it’s hard to believe there’s a market large enough for a run between the two. Fresh crabs for pork each day?

Neosporin 04-15-2021 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 3221876)
Congratulations! Finally...ETOPS!

Does ATI use an IRO on the LAX-HNL "Aloha Cargo" segment? I didn't think United did on their passenger flights. Or did I misunderstand your meaning?

From what I've heard the LAX will be a standard crew. What I meant about 'short on crews' is the more we fly and fly through SEA to LAX we may fly that augmented. We have equal number CA/FO at the moment, this was my point that hiring may continue, but as my colleague said, next year planning for more AC and related vacancies.

No, no flying the 76 from ANC for now. We'll do HNL-LAX and back, and then a separate line HNL-SEA-LAX/LAX-HNL.

skruts 04-20-2021 12:14 PM

What kind of backgrounds are folks getting hired with? Particularly, the Aloha side.

Omanko 04-20-2021 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by skruts (Post 3224354)
What kind of backgrounds are folks getting hired with? Particularly, the Aloha side.

Very heavy on internal recommendations

Neosporin 04-21-2021 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by skruts (Post 3224354)
What kind of backgrounds are folks getting hired with? Particularly, the Aloha side.

I'd say in the Aloha 737 group, recently (last year and a half) regional FO's mostly, some Captains from Ohana. Having flown locally is huuuge benefit.
On the NAC 767 side, since about May last year, 80-90% have been previous heavy drivers, 767, 777, 747, or a combination of in their past or recently.

tikicarver 05-08-2021 12:22 AM

Both flights out of HNL will be augmented crews.
HNL-LAX-HNL will be out and back. no RON
HNL-SEA-LAX ,, then RON , LAX-HNL

we are short a few FOs in MIA 767
have plenty in HNL




Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 3222127)
From what I've heard the LAX will be a standard crew. What I meant about 'short on crews' is the more we fly and fly through SEA to LAX we may fly that augmented. We have equal number CA/FO at the moment, this was my point that hiring may continue, but as my colleague said, next year planning for more AC and related vacancies.

No, no flying the 76 from ANC for now. We'll do HNL-LAX and back, and then a separate line HNL-SEA-LAX/LAX-HNL.


GoodVibeRidez 05-16-2021 12:55 PM

Anyone know the upgrade times on the 73? Also, would the 73 schedules commutable from BI?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hope all is well over at Aloha.


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