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09-24-2008, 09:36 PM

Deuce130

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FDX VTO Lines

Quick question before I call the union. I made it clear on my request that I wanted a reserve line. At least two pilots junior to me were awarded reserve lines on their VTO lines, I was not. There was no VAC conflict, no c/o conflict, or any other issues I could see. Does anyone have any ideas on how something like this could happen?

09-24-2008, 10:14 PM

jdec141

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you won't get a rsv line on vto if any trips are available. VTO rsv lines are awarded only after the alotted trips for vto's are gone. Towards the end the lines usually have both.

09-25-2008, 12:27 AM

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VTO's are supposed to be built in line number order not by seniority. Reserve VTO lines will not be created until all trips are assigned. If you want reserve bid the lines in reverse order. That way all the trips are assigned before they get to you.

09-25-2008, 03:00 AM

trashhauler

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Or bid a reserve line.

09-25-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce130

You are screwed if you didnt bid in reverse seniority order. Made that mistake before myself.........

09-25-2008, 07:25 AM

Deuce130

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Or bid a reserve line.

Can't hold it, smarty.

Thanks for the other helpful replies, however.

09-25-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce130

Can't hold it, smarty.

Thanks for the other helpful replies, however.

I figured there was a reason u didn't bid a reserve line, but I was being a smarty. U must live in Mem. It's incredible how reserve goes senior now. That of course will change when we go from 500 over manned to 500 pilots short.

09-25-2008, 08:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce130

Can't hold it, smarty.

Thanks for the other helpful replies, however.

Then you need to bid the VTO's in reverse order. Straight from the mouth to me from MS, no r-days assigned until all of the trips are gone. Bid in reverse order and then just hope you don't get hosed. It is a BS system but it is what it is in our CBA. More fine print that we bought into. I spoke to the union and they said he was right.

09-25-2008, 09:47 AM

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If you're an ANC based pilot there are a whole new list of gotcha's...

... ok.. there's one gotcha with ANC VTO's... the big M factor~!!!!

09-25-2008, 11:07 AM

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I can't swear to it under the new contract, but in the past VTO were awarded in Senority order. If the #1 guy bid VTO line #50 he still got his first choice. So you would get lines before reserve no matter what you request if lines are ava.