Search

Notices
Cargo Part 121 cargo airlines

FDX VTO Lines

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-24-2008 | 09:36 PM
  #1  
Deuce130's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
From: 777 FO
Default FDX VTO Lines

Quick question before I call the union. I made it clear on my request that I wanted a reserve line. At least two pilots junior to me were awarded reserve lines on their VTO lines, I was not. There was no VAC conflict, no c/o conflict, or any other issues I could see. Does anyone have any ideas on how something like this could happen?
Reply
Old 09-24-2008 | 10:14 PM
  #2  
jdec141's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
From: MD11 Capt
Default

you won't get a rsv line on vto if any trips are available. VTO rsv lines are awarded only after the alotted trips for vto's are gone. Towards the end the lines usually have both.
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 12:27 AM
  #3  
MaxKts's Avatar
Part Time Employee
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,918
Likes: 0
From: Dispersing Green House Gasses on a Global Basis
Default

VTO's are supposed to be built in line number order not by seniority. Reserve VTO lines will not be created until all trips are assigned. If you want reserve bid the lines in reverse order. That way all the trips are assigned before they get to you.
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 03:00 AM
  #4  
trashhauler's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
From: B-777
Default

Or bid a reserve line.
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 05:28 AM
  #5  
FedExBusBoy's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 521
Likes: 0
From: Bus Driver
Default

Originally Posted by Deuce130
Quick question before I call the union. I made it clear on my request that I wanted a reserve line. At least two pilots junior to me were awarded reserve lines on their VTO lines, I was not. There was no VAC conflict, no c/o conflict, or any other issues I could see. Does anyone have any ideas on how something like this could happen?
You are screwed if you didnt bid in reverse seniority order. Made that mistake before myself.........
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 07:25 AM
  #6  
Deuce130's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
From: 777 FO
Default

Originally Posted by trashhauler
Or bid a reserve line.

Can't hold it, smarty.

Thanks for the other helpful replies, however.
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 07:44 AM
  #7  
trashhauler's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
From: B-777
Default

Originally Posted by Deuce130
Can't hold it, smarty.

Thanks for the other helpful replies, however.
I figured there was a reason u didn't bid a reserve line, but I was being a smarty. U must live in Mem. It's incredible how reserve goes senior now. That of course will change when we go from 500 over manned to 500 pilots short.
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 08:28 AM
  #8  
FR8Hauler's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,409
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Deuce130
Can't hold it, smarty.

Thanks for the other helpful replies, however.
Then you need to bid the VTO's in reverse order. Straight from the mouth to me from MS, no r-days assigned until all of the trips are gone. Bid in reverse order and then just hope you don't get hosed. It is a BS system but it is what it is in our CBA. More fine print that we bought into. I spoke to the union and they said he was right.
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 09:47 AM
  #9  
jagplt's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 712
Likes: 0
From: 777 Multi-tasker
Default

If you're an ANC based pilot there are a whole new list of gotcha's...

... ok.. there's one gotcha with ANC VTO's... the big M factor~!!!!
Reply
Old 09-25-2008 | 11:07 AM
  #10  
R1200RT's Avatar
Living the dream!
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 915
Likes: 0
From: MD-11 Capt
Default

Originally Posted by MaxKts
VTO's are supposed to be built in line number order not by seniority. Reserve VTO lines will not be created until all trips are assigned. If you want reserve bid the lines in reverse order. That way all the trips are assigned before they get to you.
I can't swear to it under the new contract, but in the past VTO were awarded in Senority order. If the #1 guy bid VTO line #50 he still got his first choice. So you would get lines before reserve no matter what you request if lines are ava.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
boost
Cargo
20
06-07-2009 05:40 PM
grant123
Cargo
14
09-18-2008 09:31 AM
Huck
Cargo
16
09-05-2008 11:46 AM
DLax85
Cargo
3
08-30-2008 07:00 PM
NZNV
Cargo
11
08-07-2008 11:58 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices